If the Chiefs took WR Christian Watson at 30… - Page 30

staylor26 · 03-11-2022, 02:01 PM

How would you feel about that?

Shoes · 11-13-2022, 07:32 PM

Watson maybe starting to figure it out? Flashed today for sure.

Couch-Potato · 11-14-2022, 08:22 AM

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Watson maybe starting to figure it out? Flashed today for sure.

Rodgers gotta throw to someone, right? Best of luck to him and Watson.

**Buehler445** · 11-14-2022, 01:20 PM

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Watson maybe starting to figure it out? Flashed today for sure.

I think there is a very compelling case to be made for NOT SKIPPING CAMP.

Especially with n00b receivers.

Megatron96 · 11-14-2022, 01:34 PM

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Watson maybe starting to figure it out? Flashed today for sure.

Very, very small sample size, but in watching the highlights during the Sportscenter w/ SVP last night, it looked like the defense wasn't being very physical with him. In those clips he wasn't being pressed at the LoS and he was running free from the snap.

Conversely, in the clips Kurt Warner showed in his QB school a couple weeks ago, all the GB receivers were being pressed and physically pushed around throughout their routes, in those clips.

Again, super small sample size, and I don't know if the DBs just weren't being physical last night in those few plays, but the difference was immediately apparent. Kurt will probably do another analysis of Aaron Rodgers this week so it will be interesting to see what really transpired.

Shoes · 11-14-2022, 01:47 PM

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Getting off of a jam can improve with good coaching, and being 6'4 with a long wingspan helps. He isn't going to see press coverage all the time, good scheme and coaching can try to limit those opportunities.

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Very, very small sample size, but in watching the highlights during the Sportscenter w/ SVP last night, it looked like the defense wasn't being very physical with him. In those clips he wasn't being pressed at the LoS and he was running free from the snap.

Conversely, in the clips Kurt Warner showed in his QB school a couple weeks ago, all the GB receivers were being pressed and physically pushed around throughout their routes, in those clips.

Again, super small sample size, and I don't know if the DBs just weren't being physical last night in those few plays, but the difference was immediately apparent. Kurt will probably do another analysis of Aaron Rodgers this week so it will be interesting to see what really transpired.

Counterpoint- I mentioned earlier in this thread that although Watson's ability to beat press coverage isn't great, that there are ways to scheme around that.

28-14, 4th and 7. Green Bay needs to convert, and this play happens:

Christian Watson needed this game SO badly.

So happy to see him play the way we've been expecting all season.pic.twitter.com/DNXK9sXXrI
— Eli Berkovits (@BookOfEli_NFL) November 14, 2022

You'll notice Dallas does press the top WR in the bunch formation but since Green Bay is in bunch, Dallas can't press Watson which gives him a free release. The rest is history as he torches the DB in coverage and out runs the safety who is in single high coverage. If you don't believe me, take a look at what Brett Kollmann said:

They dialed up a middle read concept on 4th and 7 with him as the primary and he housed it.

Rodgers trusted HIM to run it. Not Lazard, not Tonyan, not Watkins, not Toure.

He needed a play and said "go call me something for the 6'4 dude that runs like a deer". And they did.
— Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) November 14, 2022

It will be interesting to see if this big game can have a domino effect on his season. Confidence can absolutely make or break you, excited to see what he does rest of season.

Megatron96 · 11-14-2022, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Shoes

Counterpoint- I mentioned earlier in this thread that although Watson's ability to beat press coverage isn't great, that there are ways to scheme around that.

28-14, 4th and 7. Green Bay needs to convert, and this play happens:

Christian Watson needed this game SO badly.

So happy to see him play the way we've been expecting all season.pic.twitter.com/DNXK9sXXrI
— Eli Berkovits (@BookOfEli_NFL) November 14, 2022

You'll notice Dallas does press the top WR in the bunch formation but since Green Bay is in bunch, Dallas can't press Watson which gives him a free release. The rest is history as he torches the DB in coverage and out runs the safety who is in single high coverage. If you don't believe me, take a look at what Brett Kollmann said:

They dialed up a middle read concept on 4th and 7 with him as the primary and he housed it.

Rodgers trusted HIM to run it. Not Lazard, not Tonyan, not Watkins, not Toure.

He needed a play and said "go call me something for the 6'4 dude that runs like a deer". And they did.
— Brett Kollmann (@BrettKollmann) November 14, 2022

It will be interesting to see if this big game can have a domino effect on his season. Confidence can absolutely make or break you, excited to see what he does rest of season.

A little confidence can be a huge difference maker, for certain.

kccrow · 11-15-2022, 12:35 AM

We'll have to see. He's still a guy I'd continue to press the **** out of on the line and keep safety help over the top if he breaks it. He's only made plays when he's got a relatively free release. He's also dropped more than his share in similar situations. He has an enormous physical skill set if he does ever put it together.

RunKC · 11-17-2022, 10:02 PM

5 TD’s in 4 days. He’s gonna be a good one

**Buehler445** · 11-18-2022, 09:42 AM

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5 TD’s in 4 days. He’s gonna be a good one

Remains to be seen.

Probably so. But there is a lot of tape to be booked on the kid. He adapts, learns, works on his weaknesses, he'll be good. But he could burn get figured out.

**The Franchise** · 11-18-2022, 11:54 AM

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5 TD’s in 4 days. He’s gonna be a good one

What the **** else do they have at this point?

DJ's left nut · 11-18-2022, 12:06 PM

He demonstrated really good ball skills a couple times the last two games. It's that ' manufacturing yards' thing I was talking about elsewhere.

Any ol' swinging dick can catch a pass on the numbers in wide open space. Watson did a nice job adjusting to iffy passes or pulling in contested catches.

RunKC · 11-18-2022, 01:19 PM

Sometimes you just get guys wrong. That’s what makes the draft so intriguing. I didn’t like this kid very much either but he’s blossoming into a true #1 WR.

Remember Davante Adams wasn’t that good either when he was a rookie. He had drop problems but developed into an elite #1 WR.

This good looks to be on a similar projection.

staylor26 · 11-18-2022, 01:21 PM

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Sometimes you just get guys wrong. That’s what makes the draft so intriguing. I didn’t like this kid very much either but he’s blossoming into a true #1 WR.

Remember Davante Adams wasn’t that good either when he was a rookie. He had drop problems but developed into an elite #1 WR.

This good looks to be on a similar projection.

He's been impressive, but pump the breaks a little dude.

He has however shown he has that kind of upside though.

Chris Meck · 11-18-2022, 02:20 PM

I liked him in the second round.

kcbubb · 11-19-2022, 03:08 PM

Haters gonna hate. I’m rooting for watson. I can’t stand rodgers though. I respect rodgers ability but as a person, he’s a turd. What I liked about watson is that he’s a solid young man and he’s a crazy athlete, not just straight line speed. The kid has special talent. And he seems to be different than a lot of young people today with his commitment and stability. He could have been a great long term investment for us but I think it worked out well for us to not draft him with us getting toney for cheap. I may regret those words if toney makes some bad choices off the field down the road. I don’t see watson as having that same off the field risk.

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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1630389	Sometimes you just get guys wrong. That’s what makes the draft so intriguing. I didn’t like this kid very much either but he’s blossoming into a true #1 WR. Remember Davante Adams wasn’t that good either when he was a rookie. He had drop problems but developed into an elite #1 WR. This good looks to be on a similar projection. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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11-18-2022, 02:20 PM	#449
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kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $5006719	Haters gonna hate. I’m rooting for watson. I can’t stand rodgers though. I respect rodgers ability but as a person, he’s a turd. What I liked about watson is that he’s a solid young man and he’s a crazy athlete, not just straight line speed. The kid has special talent. And he seems to be different than a lot of young people today with his commitment and stability. He could have been a great long term investment for us but I think it worked out well for us to not draft him with us getting toney for cheap. I may regret those words if toney makes some bad choices off the field down the road. I don’t see watson as having that same off the field risk.
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