***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Donger

The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl, though!

True that.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Donger

The Kansas City Chiefs won the Super Bowl, though!

Gotta kind of figure all this would be the cost.

Sorry fellas. Bright side, I could've grown up to be a Pats fan and we'd be just now coming out a generation of this shit.

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Gotta kind of figure all this would be the cost.

Sorry fellas. Bright side, I could've grown up to be a Pats fan and we'd be just now coming out a generation of this shit.

Had a customer- Big Donk fan- told me 2 years ago.
"when the chiefs will win it all, the world as we know it will be no more"
I laughed. Now I find it a bit spooky.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Odds are strongly in his favor, right Donger?

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

Had a customer- Big Donk fan- told me 2 years ago.
"when the chiefs will win it all, the world as we know it will be no more"
I laughed. Now I find it a bit spooky.

Speaking personally, makes perfect sense.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by TLO

Good God the comments on that video... Twitter is a total cesspool.

Yes, yes it is.

[TLO]

So uh, this is pretty big news.

Health Canada begins first authorization review of a COVID-19 vaccine submission

https://www.canada.ca/en/health-cana...ubmission.html

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Bit off topic but..........
Anyone find Diglers Avatar sig pic thing distracting?

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by Donger

He ended up in the ICU, yes. I don't know if he went on a vent.

Did not need ventilated. Needed Oxygen.

[suzzer99]

Trump is on remdesivir now. For some reason I thought that was only for very serious cases. Any doctors on here want to chime in?

[TLO]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Trump is on remdesivir now. For some reason I thought that was only for very serious cases. Any doctors on here want to chime in?

Not a doctor, but I'll chime in.

My understanding that remdesivir is pretty much the standard of care for hospitalized patients at this point. The sooner it's started, the more effective it typically is. (Very much true of all antivirals)

It's still no magic bullet, but they're clearly pulling out all the stops here.

Reports are that he's not on any supplemental oxygen, so that's positive.

I think it's clear that his condition is deteriorating to at least some degree. Overall this isn't totally unexpected though. If the monoclonal antibodies are as good as advertised, combined with the remdesivir, he should start to improve in the next few days.

If he doesn't... Well... Dexamethasone is still there as an option if he requires supplemental oxygen or God forbid intubation. But if we reach that point I'm going to be very, very nervous about the situation.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Trump is on remdesivir now. For some reason I thought that was only for very serious cases. Any doctors on here want to chime in?

I heard he was taking the Regeneron medication and not Remdesivir...

[TLO]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I heard he was taking the Regeneron medication and not Remdesivir...

He took the Regeneron infusion earlier in the day. They started him on Remdesivir at the hospital this evening.

[Warrick]

Didn't he claim to be taking hydroxychloroquine? He pushed the drug for months, so is he taking it now or was that all bs?

[tk13]

Originally Posted by TLO

Maybe just a precautionary move to ensure the best medical care is available if needed?

I don't know... This isn't good

It's a smart move. The way COVID behaves, you can be humming along fine and then it flips on you and you'll deteriorate in a matter of hours. He's the President of the United States. You don't want to waste 30 minutes to an hour rushing him to a hospital if he wakes up on day 7 and can't breathe and his organs are failing. As it stands now they can immediately attend to him if there are issues.