***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by TLO

There was an error somewhere. I read about it earlier. I'll see if can find the link

That was my first thought or a back log fill but DHS are saying they don't know.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Deaths on the MO side have risen since 9/26......

KS side is fortunately seeing a downward move...


However, the Deaths to Cases Rate in KS\Mo is still pretty low and flat and has been since July.

I need to preface this though that this data is only for the KC area.

The metro area should theoretically be coming down the curve but the rest of MO is just getting blasted

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by chefs fan in omaha

I’m amazed at how many people wear masks yet no medical professionals wear them outside of work

You must be a well connected fellow to know all of the medical professionals. Whatever dude.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by chefs fan in omaha

I’m amazed at how many people wear masks yet no medical professionals wear them outside of work

I think that pro mask and anti mask people would all agree on my reply:

WTF are you talking about?

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by loochy

I think that pro mask and anti mask people would all agree on my reply:

WTF are you talking about?

It's hard to understand him because his voice is muffled from the Fruit Of The Loom mask covering the hole he's talking out of.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

uh.. I shouldn't be surprised though because to many people aren't wearing masks and SD.

https://apnews.com/article/virus-out...abd53504ba3b6e

More than 5K new COVID-19 cases in Missouri sets record

ST. LOUIS (AP) — Missouri reported more than 5,000 new COVID-19 cases on Saturday to more than double the previous single-day record.

The Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services said there have been a total of 144,230 confirmed cases since the outbreak started, up 5,066 cases from Friday. The previous single day high of 2,084 new cases was set on July 30, KMOV reports.

Health department spokeswoman Lisa Cox didn’t immediately respond to an email from The Associated Press seeking an explanation for the large increase. It was reported on the same day that the number of deaths increased by 27 to bring the total to 2,422.

Data from the state also shows that 1,313 people were hospitalized as of Friday, the second-most for any single day. The rise in hospitalizations is occurring largely in Missouri’s rural communities.

“People aren’t following the rules,” Jayne Dees, administrator of the health department in New Madrid County in the Bootheel region of southeast Missouri, told the St. Louis Post-Dispatch. “They’re not social distancing. They’re not wearing masks. They’re gathering.”

Dr. Nathan Sprengel, a doctor at the SEMO Health Network clinic in New Madrid, said some patients get upset when they are urged to wear masks in the clinic.

“That tells me they’re probably not wearing one when they’re out in public,” he said.

Meanwhile, an outbreak at the jail in St. Louis County has grown to include 20 inmates and one employee, officials announced Friday night. Mass testing is underway as the facility seeks to control the spread of the virus.

Truth be told, masks mitigate the spread well in public places but the real big spreading is going on during big family gatherings.

[TLO]

DHSS addresses State of Missouri COVID-19 data concerns as it transitions to automatic reporting

JEFFERSON CITY, MO – Providing real-time information and reporting about COVID-19’s impact on Missouri remains a top priority for the Missouri Department of Health and Senior Services (DHSS).

DHSS works diligently each day to provide transparent and actionable data to Missourians to help mitigate the transmission of COVID-19. The amount and types of information creates a dynamic, complex situation which changes constantly. DHSS is currently in the process of migrating all COVID-19 testing and case data into one new consolidated system, called EpiTrax.

Missouri launched a new version of the Show Me Strong COVID-19 Public Health Dashboard on Sept. 28 to integrate pandemic response data across public health, economic, employment, and social impact indicators. This single point of access provides recovery information with greater detail and specificity across the various sectors, and also seeks to streamline data reporting.

A database extract error on Oct. 10 resulted in an incorrect inflation of the number of reported cases going back over several days, suggesting that 5,020 cases had been added in 24 hours.

“When this issue was initially raised Saturday morning, the dashboard team began working through the data to identify the problem and are working through the weekend to correct the underlying issue,” said Dr. Randall Williams, DHSS Director.

“Missourians should feel confident that we appreciate their feedback and continue to adapt our processes to ensure effective and accountable reporting to our citizens.”

DHSS team members have examined the system issue and are working urgently to resolve it. The Show Me Strong COVID-19 Public Health Dashboard will be updated once that resolution is complete. One key aim of transitioning to the new EpiTrax system is to standardize data management, and, thereby, prevent data reporting issues in the future.

It is important to note that all new cases have still been, and will continue to be, reported accurately and in a timely fashion to local public health agencies for case investigation. The above issues were limited to cumulative reporting on the Show Me Strong COVID-19 Public Health Dashboard.

“We are committed to continually improving our practices,” said Williams. “While our updated internal processes serve the purpose of reporting data with greater granularity, finalizing the new approach to replace manual entry presents our team with technical challenges that we are working through.”

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[kgrund]

Funny how everybody here in Missouri just easily accepted a reported number that just on the surface looked like BS.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by kgrund

Funny how everybody here in Missouri just easily accepted a reported number that just on the surface looked like BS.

That headline was posted for clicks, nothing else. They knew it wasn't accurate, they posted it anyway

[BWillie]

Im at some dumb church function thing with my GFs family. Nobody wearing masks. A bunch of old ppl all in a confined area. Wtf are old ppl doing.

These are the kind of events that is contributing to this shit and Im unfortunately part of the problem. I really wouldn't be here if I could help it. Terrible looks from non mask wearers

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Yup absolutely horrible for people to be in close contact with at risk people. Just nuts...

[O.city]

The problem with that is some people don't even know they're at risk. If you aren't up on your health, you don't know.

Also, it's a reason why high cases are problematic. THe more spread there is, the harder it is to keep it out of areas you don't want it to be.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Attended a wedding today in rural MO. Ceremony was outside. About 250 ppl, no masks, no distancing, no ****s given.

My wife and I stood at the back during the ceremony and left before the reception. Shit was mind-blowing to me.

Edit: we were, LITERALLY, the only 2 ppl wearing masks. Everyone looked at us like we were some sort of communist.

You went on vacation to Florida.

[O.city]

I'm hopeful we start to see hospitalizations head back down. With the election and such, I worry we don't have the political will to do much if hospitals get overwhelmed.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm hopeful we start to see hospitalizations head back down. With the election and such, I worry we don't have the political will to do much if hospitals get overwhelmed.

Hospitalizations in our area are very volatile. We discharge a decent number, and a couple days later we're right back where we were.

Our hospital has basically said, " Yeah we have room for more patients, but we're running out of people to take care of them. "

Eventually creating more room for covid patients is going to take a toll on space for non covid patients as well.