***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

And when the exact same nonsense comes up tomorrow, and the next day and the next day? How is that not bad faith trolling at that point?

Deal with tomorrow tomorrow?

[petegz28]

Still no taste or smell but I will tell you my salivary glands on the right side of my face are so ****ing swollen and sore it's very painful.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Still no taste or smell but I will tell you my salivary glands on the right side of my face are so ****ing swollen and sore it's very painful.

Any improvement otherwise?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Any improvement otherwise?

No, not really.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

You responded to me directly, and quoted me quoting phisherman, who explicitly said the post was political based solely on the source site.

My intent was to point out that it should be ignored because the information was inaccurate.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Fish

My intent was to point out that it should be ignored because the information was inaccurate.

Fair enough.

[O.city]

Take care of yourself pete. It can get away from you quick.

My parents church had 3 more deaths yesterday. Shit is outta control down there. Luckily my family has hit herd immunity I think

Sad but maybe true

[Eureka]

Everyone is a wannabe Stephen Lyon Crohn in here.

[Donger]

Sweden hits highest daily COVID-19 spread as chief epidemiologist says herd immunity not 'ethically justifiable'

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-10-...umber/12829990

Sweden, which has shunned lockdowns throughout the pandemic, has registered 2,820 new coronavirus cases in 24 hours, the highest daily figure since the pandemic began.

The October 28 figure eclipsed a record set only the previous day, when more than 2,400 cases were announced, Health Agency statistics show.

It was the third record number in a matter of days and came as the country's chief epidemiologist Anders Tegnell warned against the strategy of attaining herd immunity.

"Striving for herd immunity is neither ethical nor otherwise justifiable," Dr Tegnell told German paper Die Zeit.

In March, Dr Tegnell appeared to ask whether a higher death rate among older people might be acceptable if it led to faster herd immunity.

Sweden's Health Agency has said the peak during the spring probably ran much higher but went unrecorded due to a lack of testing.

"We're beginning to approach the ceiling for what the healthcare system can handle," Dr Tegnell told a news conference.

"Together, as during the spring, we can push down this curve and avoid the strain on healthcare."

The Health Agency also moved to tighten pandemic recommendations for regions including Sweden's biggest cities Stockholm and Gothenburg, saying infection rates were rising sharply in these areas.

Sweden has relied primarily on voluntary measures, largely unenforced but still widely adhered to.

The new tighter local recommendations, already introduced in two regions with surging infections, included advice to avoid indoor environments such as shops and gyms.

Stockholm authorities said separately that the number of COVID-19 patients in need of care in the region had risen about 60 per cent over the past week after a near 80 per cent surge in recorded infections.

Sweden registered seven new deaths, taking the total to 5,934.

Sweden's death rate per capita is several times higher than its Nordic neighbours, but lower than some larger European countries, such as Spain and Britain.

[TLO]

I wonder if the virus has mutated to some degree? It seems like the entire world is experiencing a big uptick in cases. I'm all for it becoming easier to transmit if the trade off is that it's less lethal.

[TLO]

Durable SARS-CoV-2 B cell immunity after mild or severe disease

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....28.20220996v1

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by petegz28

No, not really.

Get well soon!

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

I wonder if the virus has mutated to some degree? It seems like the entire world is experiencing a big uptick in cases. I'm all for it becoming easier to transmit if the trade off is that it's less lethal.

Seasonality

Just like all the other corona viruses

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by TLO

I wonder if the virus has mutated to some degree? It seems like the entire world is experiencing a big uptick in cases. I'm all for it becoming easier to transmit if the trade off is that it's less lethal.

It has mutated a little but I don't think they believe those mutations amount to much. We are going into the cold season so everyone is going back inside where the virus spreads much easier.

This is why it is important during the holiday season to stay away from anyone that you haven't been quarantined with and everyone wear a mask...Pretty PLEASE with sugar on top.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by oldandslow

One of my best friends died last night from Covid. He was 63, a runner, and had no prior conditions that would impact his bout with the disease.

He leaves behind a wife, 2 daughters, and a baby grandchild who will never know his Papa.

This, to me, is the legacy of covid.

Man, that really stinks. Sorry to hear that.