***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Eureka]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I can taste spicy. I can taste things for the most part. I cannot taste soda or coffee very well. Sweet things like chocolate seem to be the hardest for me to taste.

Maybe, it's liquids that are taking there time to comeback taste wise. Good thing you're getting better.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by O.city

****ing blabbering idiots "no immunity"!!

It's not proven that people have lasting immunity, so..

[Eureka]

Now that you know what is technically over...

I'm sure we will start to hear more positive medical news about this virus and how we can start to fight back/recover. It's good to hear one can build up some immunity.

Who knows maybe the worst is yet to come with the virus potentially jumping from animal to human then mutating. Anything can potentially happen in 2020.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

It's not proven that people have lasting immunity, so..

Because that’s not how it’s gonna work. We know how viruses and the immune system works to combat them.

If you wanna say “this one is completely abnormal than anything we know of” you’ve gotta prove that vs the alternative that “yeah it acts like a normal virus”

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by O.city

Because that’s not how it’s gonna work. We know how viruses and the immune system works to combat them.

If you wanna say “this one is completely abnormal than anything we know of” you’ve gotta prove that vs the alternative that “yeah it acts like a normal virus”

Considering the two dozen and something symptoms the virus causes it's safe to say it does not act like a 'normal' virus.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Considering the two dozen and something symptoms the virus causes it's safe to say it does not act like a 'normal' virus.

NonE are really abnormal in regards to a respiratory viral infection especially one that is novel.

In terms of the Immune response there is no reason to believe it will be anything different than the vast majority of the other viral infections(especially a Corona virus or a rhinovirus or an adenovirus) we all encounter.

It’s not HIV. It’s a fairly run of the mill corona virus

[dirk digler]

Damn 116k cases today and 1100 deaths

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Damn 116k cases today and 1100 deaths

Just wait until a week after Thanksgiving. Its confusing ppl thought this thing was going to be easily mitigated when entering cold and flu szn. Its like ppl just put there head in the sand and refused to acknowledge the cold and flu season exists. We acted totally unprepared when we know that increased transmission rates are going to occur like clockwork. If I was a state leader I would have tried to get ahead of this thing. Businesses cant close, at least the 95 pct of them but why ppl are still packing into bars and restaurants is beyond me.

[KCUnited]

The message I get is that by now people understand and have reconciled with both cases and deaths going up and are making decisions to gather whether its at public or non-public locations. Unfortunately, leaders can't regulate the latter so its a lose/lose on lives and business if things shut down.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Just wait until a week after Thanksgiving. Its confusing ppl thought this thing was going to be easily mitigated when entering cold and flu szn. Its like ppl just put there head in the sand and refused to acknowledge the cold and flu season exists. We acted totally unprepared when we know that increased transmission rates are going to occur like clockwork. If I was a state leader I would have tried to get ahead of this thing. Businesses cant close, at least the 95 pct of them but why ppl are still packing into bars and restaurants is beyond me.

From the cluster data I have seen at least in KS, the bars and restaurants are not spreading like you would think.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by petegz28

From the cluster data I have seen at least in KS, the bars and restaurants are not spreading like you would think.

That's not what SCIENCE says

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Damn 116k cases today and 1100 deaths

Okay well that sucks but let's try to find whatever silver lining we can. Deaths are not rising even like they did with the last wave let alone the first wave.

We have to hope that continues of course. Last wave deaths peaked 7 days after cases peaked. We have not seen a rise in deaths at the same rate as last wave so fingers crossed.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Okay well that sucks but let's tryin to find whatever silver lining we can. Deaths are not rising even like they did with the last wave let alone the first wave.

We have to hope that continues of course. Last wave deaths peaked 7 days after cases peaked. We have not seen a rise in deaths at the same rate as last wave so fingers crossed.

BUT FLU SZN








Ignoring, of course, logic stating the people most at risk from dying from influenza are also the people who have most likely already passed away from C-19

[Otter]

I knew a weird chick that had a ferret as a pet in college. Ferrets look a lot like minks. Should I be concerned?

It may have sneezed near me once.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Damn 116k cases today and 1100 deaths

I thought Fauci was wrong with his prediction. Guess I was wrong.