***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

There is no consensus on where herd immunity is for this. Some say it has to be 60-70% and I have seen others that think it starts to kick in between 20-30% seroprevalence.

I had thought we'd get lucky with the lower ones, but areas hit hard early are starting to see a second wave. So sadly, we probably aren't there yet.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

Operation Warpspeed seems competent...

our military has been doing supply and logistics for 245 years. Yeah, they are damn good at it.

[BigCatDaddy]

I like the fact he was talking around spring to knock this out.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/covid-1...es-2020-11-08/

Very informative segment from 60 Minutes last night with the guy in charge of logistics of distributing vaccine in the US. He seems competent.

I've worked with many 4 stars. They don't tolerate spin, BS or excuses at all. There is no PC in the military, they will call you out and dress you down in a room full of people. Get to to damn point fast.

Whats the problem? How do we fix it? What do you need from me? You get beyond that expect to get slapped down.

[TLO]

If Pfizer is showing 90% effectiveness, isn't that enough to get the ball rolling on an EUA? Like.. Today.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

If Pfizer is showing 90% effectiveness, isn't that enough to get the ball rolling on an EUA? Like.. Today.

No. The FDA wants two months of safety data first.

[Fish]

Awesome.

“The vaccine will be available for free to all American citizens,” Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla told CNN.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

No. The FDA wants two months of safety data first.

Which comes next week. Expedite the process. Look at the data avaliable now, then look at the safety data next week.

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Fish

Awesome.

Depends on whether you consider getting micro-chipped and sterilized "free."

[Donger]

Originally Posted by TLO

Which comes next week. Expedite the process. Look at the data avaliable now, then look at the safety data next week.

I don't think they can speed up time.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

I don't think they can speed up time.

[MahiMike]

Can't wait for the Biden lockdowns to kill more folks than the virus.

[TLO]

To be honest, 90%+ effectiveness on the first try for a vaccine that is completed in less than a year might be one of mankind's greatest achievements. (Unless something catastrophic happens and it falls apart)

Science rules.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Can't wait for the Biden lockdowns to kill more folks than the virus.

Well, there's that...

[TLO]

Originally Posted by MahiMike

Can't wait for the Biden lockdowns to kill more folks than the virus.

Go directly to DC with your politics. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.