***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Baby Lee]

All this extra refrigeration is gonna ruin the environment. . .

[dirk digler]

Highest cases and hospitalizations since this whole nightmare started. Only hope is to keep the deaths down as much as possible.

Our daily update is published. States reported 1.2 million tests and 131k cases, the highest single-day total since the pandemic started. There are 62k people currently hospitalized with COVID-19. The death toll was 1,347. pic.twitter.com/WPoX9Nj7ef

— The COVID Tracking Project (@COVID19Tracking) November 11, 2020

[TLO]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Highest cases and hospitalizations since this whole nightmare started. Only hope is to keep the deaths down as much as possible.

Our daily update is published. States reported 1.2 million tests and 131k cases, the highest single-day total since the pandemic started. There are 62k people currently hospitalized with COVID-19. The death toll was 1,347. pic.twitter.com/WPoX9Nj7ef

— The COVID Tracking Project (@COVID19Tracking) November 11, 2020

I know "deaths lag" - but they don't seem to be following the same pattern as before.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

I know "deaths lag" - but they don't seem to be following the same pattern as before.

Presumably, better treatments will help to keep the death rate down better than in the spring. The question is just what happens if ICUs start filling up.

[O.city]

We’re accelerating fast towards the ultimate superspreader event, thanksgiving.

It’s gonna get bad

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by O.city

We’re accelerating fast towards the ultimate superspreader event, thanksgiving.

It’s gonna get bad

There were literally thousands and thousands of people in the streets at various time this last weekend celebrating the election. Now those people will go hang out with their families. Double whammy.

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I'm rolling up my sleeve now just in case an appointment opens up earlier.

Are you over 50? Did you get your shingles shot yet?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

We’re accelerating fast towards the ultimate superspreader event, thanksgiving.

It’s gonna get bad

We aren’t going to be around any family for Thanksgiving this year. I have to admit I am looking forward to it. For the last 10+ years we always drive hours to go to different family Thanksgivings so it will be nice just to relax at home and watch some football and stuff my face.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

Are you over 50? Did you get your shingles shot yet?

Yes and no. Can you get shingles if you've never had chicken pox?

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

Hot take. An NFL player dies

Mahomes or Brady?

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Yes and no. Can you get shingles if you've never had chicken pox?

No. Just checking. A woman at work in her early 50's just went through a bout with it for months. I'm 60 and that made me go get the shots.

Just looking out for the king of CP.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

No. Just checking. A woman at work in her early 50's just went through a bout with it for months. I'm 60 and that made me go get the shots.

Just looking out for the king of CP.

What’s the risk of shingles? I know it’s really painful but not a lot of people get it do they? Is it a life long vaccine or a yearly thing?

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

We aren’t going to be around any family for Thanksgiving this year. I have to admit I am looking forward to it. For the last 10+ years we always drive hours to go to different family Thanksgivings so it will be nice just to relax at home and watch some football and stuff my face.

We usually have my family’s my wife’s moms and then her dads

Her dads family thanksgiving usually has around 60 people in one house. They got rocked with covid, her two great uncles passed and her grandma and two aunts were all hospitalized with it so they’ve cancelled this year

My grqndma usually has ours at her house and we have about 50. They’re wanting to still have decided we’ll just delay and have it later in the spring or something

We’re gonna have my father in law and his wife and my wife’s brother and girlfriend over to our house and have a small one here. They’ve all already had it so we figure they’re the best people to be around

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

You could probably get in on a trial now. They are looking for volunteers here in KC right now so I bet Denver has this option.

I was looking into it today but they were wanting people who aren’t working from home.

I've actually halfway pondered that. I'd get vaccinated and I'd get paid. I don't know if I want to be completely at the front of the line, though. That's what college students are for.

I haven't thought about this yet, but let's say that a highly effective vaccine rolls in our direction. If it takes three or four months to get everyone vaccinated, do we not open up society fully until everyone's vaccinated? Do we start opening up when half are vaccinated? It seems like you have to wait until the whole process is finished (excepting some laggards on the tail end).

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by mlyonsd

No. Just checking. A woman at work in her early 50's just went through a bout with it for months. I'm 60 and that made me go get the shots.

Just looking out for the king of CP.

My mother has had it a couple of times and says that it's no fun at all.

Now I'm looking. Apparently I can't catch shingles, but someone who has shingles could give me chicken pox. But if I've had a chicken pox vaccine, then I can't get chicken pox which then seems to mean that I can't get shingles.

It sounds like the key to this whole thing is to protect oneself from chicken pox.

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/c...ad-chickenpox/