***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by petegz28

When you start shutting down businesses you are essentially enacting a stay at home order. WTF is a "voluntary stay at home order"? If you want to stay home then stay home. Why does that need an order?

It is a warning shot that if things don't improve he will issue a full stay at home order I imagine.

Gov. Steve Sisolak is asking Nevadans to voluntarily stay home for the next two weeks as COVID-19 cases spike statewide, warning that if the data doesn’t improve over that period he will be forced to take more drastic action.

Under what Sisolak is calling “Stay at Home 2.0,” Nevadans are being urged to not go out in public unless absolutely necessary, not gather with those outside their households, order groceries for delivery instead of going to the store and pick up food curbside instead of dining at their favorite restaurant. Employers are also being asked to have their employees telework as much as possible for the next two weeks and host meetings virtually instead of in conference rooms.

“For the next two weeks, we must mimic our stay-at-home behaviors from this past spring,” Sisolak said at a press conference Tuesday evening. “If we do so, we believe we can begin to turn around things in two weeks without having to place increased restrictions on our businesses or our schools."

If the trends do not improve, Sisolak is threatening to once again put in place restrictions, though he declined on Tuesday to specify exactly what mitigation measures he is considering. In March, all nonessential businesses were forced to shut their doors for at least two months — even longer for bars, some of which weren’t allowed to open until September.

“I don't know what restrictions we're going to have to put in place, but they're going to be severe, they're going to be hard, and they're going to be things that people aren't going to want to do and I get that, but we don't have to do any of that,” Sisolak said. “I don't want to focus on what we're going to do if this doesn't work, because I want to believe, I do believe, this will work.”

[Kman34]

Until this month I didn’t have anyone close that has come down with it.. Now 2 coworkers, my bro in law.. and a couple of friends.... Seems like just a matter of time that my kids , grandkids and the wife and I catch it...

[O.city]

Another problem we’ll have is that now that’s it’s everywhere there aren’t nurses and docs that can up and come help. Like New York early, it’s what you got now

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Kman34

Until this month I didn’t have anyone close that has come down with it.. Now 2 coworkers, my bro in law.. and a couple of friends.... Seems like just a matter of time that my kids , grandkids and the wife and I catch it...

It's kind of the nature of this beast and is why so many keep underestimating it. As long as it's not really close to your contact circles, you can be fine for a long time. But once it is, it spreads like wildfire.

In the past month, my brother and sister-in-law got it. Then separately, my niece who works in a school got it. Her husband got it. Both of his kids got it. His kids' mom got it...

Thankfully, the only (almost) death I've had is that my cleaning lady had an elderly couple she cared for. Both of them got it a few weeks back, and the husband is now in hospice.

I'm definitely worried about my dad, though. He's 69, has asthma, and had a heart attack around 10 years ago. I really hope he can stay isolated enough for a few more months.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Kman34

Until this month I didn’t have anyone close that has come down with it.. Now 2 coworkers, my bro in law.. and a couple of friends.... Seems like just a matter of time that my kids , grandkids and the wife and I catch it...

I feel the same way. I hadn't had anyone close even get it up until recently. Now I know a wide variety of people that have had it.

[O.city]

If there are really fire hot spots coming up, start vaccinating there once you get Emergency authorization

[O.city]

My family has herd immunity with it so it’s nothing new to me

[TLO]

Great work by colleague @SecAzar and Operation Warp Speed team to save lives - 80,000 doses of Lilly's monoclonal antibody drug arrived to shipper and already allocated to states within hours of EUA granted #OWS #Success

— Scott W. Atlas (@SWAtlasHoover) November 11, 2020

[TLO]

The problem with the monoclonal antibodies is deciding who actually gets the treatment. I think they've said it will be prioritized for people 65+ or have a BMI greater than 35.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

The problem with the monoclonal antibodies is deciding who actually gets the treatment. I think they've said it will be prioritized for people 65+ or have a BMI greater than 35.

Sounds like you are bias towards CP posters.

[pugsnotdrugs19]

I don’t want to disclose a bunch of details, but my significant other, who is young and very healthy — has COVID. It’s a struggle right now. Pre-existing conditions have her battling like I never would have imagined. And damn it, it is tough getting through each day not knowing what the future holds. Thought things would be getting better by now, but so far only worse.

Please, protect your peers to the best of your ability. Wear a mask, keep your space whenever possible. This shit is real and it is not over.

Wishing anyone else who might be in a similar spot the absolute best.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I don’t want to disclose a bunch of details, but my significant other, who is young and very healthy — has COVID. It’s a struggle right now. Pre-existing conditions have her battling like I never would have imagined. And damn it, it is tough getting through each day not knowing what the future holds. Thought things would be getting better by now, but so far only worse.

Please, protect your peers to the best of your ability. Wear a mask, keep your space whenever possible. This shit is real and it is not over.

Wishing anyone else who might be in a similar spot the absolute best.

Damn sorry to hear , good luck

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I don’t want to disclose a bunch of details, but my significant other, who is young and very healthy — has COVID. It’s a struggle right now. Pre-existing conditions have her battling like I never would have imagined. And damn it, it is tough getting through each day not knowing what the future holds. Thought things would be getting better by now, but so far only worse.

Please, protect your peers to the best of your ability. Wear a mask, keep your space whenever possible. This shit is real and it is not over.

Wishing anyone else who might be in a similar spot the absolute best.

Thoughts are with you and your significant other.

[Kman34]

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

I don’t want to disclose a bunch of details, but my significant other, who is young and very healthy — has COVID. It’s a struggle right now. Pre-existing conditions have her battling like I never would have imagined. And damn it, it is tough getting through each day not knowing what the future holds. Thought things would be getting better by now, but so far only worse.

Please, protect your peers to the best of your ability. Wear a mask, keep your space whenever possible. This shit is real and it is not over.

Wishing anyone else who might be in a similar spot the absolute best.

Sorry to hear this Pug.. Hope she starts to feel better soon..

[Rain Man]

The Lilly drug is a therapeutic, right? I've been hearing more about vaccines, so I was confused since I hadn't heard Lilly in that pack of companies.