Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First Round

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Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First*Round

by Joel Thorman on Apr 18, 2010 10:34 AM CDT in 2010 Campaign

Last year about this time, Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post first reported that the Chiefs were "in love" with LSU DE Tyson Jackson. A few days later and Jackson was the Chiefs pick in the draft.

Now Lombardi reports that the Chiefs are trying like hell to move down in the draft.

"The Chiefs are trying, and I mean really trying, to move down," Lombardi reports. "My sources tell me they'll be willing to go down as far as 15 for the right deal because they feel they can find a player in that range."

It's a fine line between trading down and trading down too far. According to Lombardi, our theory of the Eagles offering up the 24th and 37th picks for the Chiefs fifth pick doesn't look like it's happening. By staying around 15, they can still have a shot at a game changer -- Alabama LB Rolando McClain and Texas S Earl Thomas come to mind here -- as well as picking up extra selections.

That said, who's the Chiefs trading partner? SB Nation's Mocking The Draft takes an excellent look at this situation and comes to the conclusion that San Francisco might be the only team in that area that has a chance of moving up.

Lombardi reports the Chiefs are hoping someone wants to get in line to pick Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Pioli had 1 draft and you are trying to say that out of the whole team players who could bitch should be players in their 2nd year?

By the way, Pioli didn't lead us to 2 wins. That was Herm and Carl.

Here's a question though:

How many of those guys wouldn't have been chosen after their first year? No one but Charles.

Now, how many of the dozens and dozens of players that Pioli has brought in would qualify?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

I think you are missing the point of the post. The franchise is a joke. The sign outside the locker room made us a joke.

Nobody but CP cares about the ****ing sign.

JFC.

There isn't a player worth his salt on this team that could demand a trade.

No one's in a contract year, none of these guys have ANY leverage.

A second or third year player isn't going to demand a trade, especially given the weakness of the Chiefs roster. They aren't three deep (or even two deep) ANYWHERE.

For ****'s Sake, stop it.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

And we got 4 wins out of Cassel and 2 out of Herm's boys.

Without Herm's boys the 2009 Chiefs are the worst offense and defense in league history.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Vermeil drafted like shit. We had no young talent.

That's a stretch to blame a 2-14 record on a draft 3 years before. Bitching about 4-12 now is kind of hypocritical isnt it?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Vermeil drafted like shit. We had no young talent.

Exactly. He drafted like shit and he left Herm a roster full of 30+ year olds nearing retirement. No team was set to sink more than the one Herm was handed.

Hate Herm or not, it's impossible to not see that the roster he inherited was in horrendous shape.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Without Herm's boys the 2009 Chiefs are the worst offense and defense in league history.

Probably true. You brought up the QB rating.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

That's a stretch to blame a 2-14 record on a draft 3 years before. Bitching about 4-12 now is kind of hypocritical isnt it?

Not really. We hit rock bottom bc Vermeil was dumb son of a bitch drafting.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

That's a stretch to blame a 2-14 record on a draft 3 years before. Bitching about 4-12 now is kind of hypocritical isnt it?

You have to be the dumbest mother****er to ever post on the 'Planet.

Seriously? Are you ****ing kidding ME?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

JFC.

There isn't a player worth his salt on this team that could demand a trade.

No one's in a contract year, none of these guys have ANY leverage.

A second or third year player isn't going to demand a trade, especially given the weakness of the Chiefs roster. They aren't three deep (or even two deep) ANYWHERE.

For ****'s Sake, stop it.

Since when does leverage have to do with player discontent?

Everybody was all over it when Whitlock was writing about Waters crying.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Probably true. You brought up the QB rating.

No, I didn't.

[ChiefsCountry]

When some of us have to defend Herm ****ing Edwards proves what a piss poor job Pioli did last year.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Since when does leverage have to do with player discontent?

Everybody was all over it when Whitlock was writing about Waters crying.

Waters is 33 years ****ing old.

He can demand a trade all he wants but the bottom line is that he's not worth ****ing shit.

Someone MIGHT give us a 7th round pick for him and he may not even make that team.

He's smart enough to collect his big paycheck from the Chiefs and keep his ****ing mouth SHUT.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

That's a stretch to blame a 2-14 record on a draft 3 years before. Bitching about 4-12 now is kind of hypocritical isnt it?

It's not about a draft 3 years before. It's about drafts 3-10 years before. And the fact that everybody knew--that almost all the starters were over 30.

The roster Herm handed over to Haley was young, wasn't tied to a bunch of people under the cap, and had at least a core of foundational young players to build off of.

You can't even pretend that Haley and Herm inherited a similar situation. And by the way, Pioli pushed the process back only because he forced a 3-4 defense, even though Herm's defense was only a few pieces away from a pretty solid 4-3.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

You have to be the dumbest mother****er to ever post on the 'Planet.

Seriously? Are you ****ing kidding ME?

Seriously are you arguing the post or the poster? Why is it a stretch to ask that. We are going to say Herm was great but he went 2-14 because of Vermiel but we can bitch we went 4-12 after 1 Pioli draft.

I understand the change in philosophy with player acquisition in 2008 but damn man, 2-14?

We won 4 games with a reeruned head coach and a non contributing 2009 draft.

[ChiefsCountry]

The Chiefs should have gutted the team in 2006 instead of 2008.