***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Marcellus]

EXCLUSIVE: We've obtained photos of Governor Gavin Newsom at the Napa dinner party he's in hot water over. The photos call into question just how outdoors the dinner was. A witness who took photos tells us his group was so loud, the sliding doors had to be closed. 10pm on @FOXLA pic.twitter.com/gtOVEwa864

— Bill Melugin (@BillFOXLA) November 18, 2020

[Pants]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

EXCLUSIVE: We've obtained photos of Governor Gavin Newsom at the Napa dinner party he's in hot water over. The photos call into question just how outdoors the dinner was. A witness who took photos tells us his group was so loud, the sliding doors had to be closed. 10pm on @FOXLA pic.twitter.com/gtOVEwa864

— Bill Melugin (@BillFOXLA) November 18, 2020

Shitty leader.

[O.city]

**** them all. From the top down, it’s been just a god damn fiasco of messaging and it infuriates me

[eDave]

That's old news already discussed.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Knuckleheads probably makes it because it's in a low priced real estate area and I think Frank owns the building.

He owns both buildings and adjacent parking lots.


He's been there forty years.. started by repairing and painting semis.

It's a small complex at this point. Been fun to watch it expand.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by stevieray

He owns both buildings and adjacent parking lots.


He's been there forty years.. started by repairing and painting semis.

It's a small complex at this point. Been fun to watch it expand.

The show I'm going too on the 27th is in flux I think. Latest word from Knuckleheads:

Hello all. With the recent COVID restrictions announced this week we wanted to update you.

Since we reopened in May we have been at 50% capacity in all of our buildings and will, obviously, continue to follow that.

All of our shows will continue as planned and will be ending at 9:30PM with us having to be closed by 10:00PM . All of the start and end times for shows have been adjusted and ticket holders will be emailed as each show is manually changed.

Thank you for your continued support these last 8 months. Feel free to contact us with any questions. Happy Holidays.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by eDave

That's old news already discussed.

Looks like its about to be re-discussed on the news in LA tonight.

That kind of shit should be a terminable offense. You are putting people out of business in your state and disobeying the "rules" YOU implemented and doing it very obviously and knowingly.

But its OK, he apologized for making a "mistake". But we all know it wasn't a mistake.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by eDave

That's old news already discussed.

You’re a ****ing clown.

[petegz28]

Our school district just went to remote for MS and HS from Nov. 30th to Dec 18th. I am not really sure that does anything other than says "we are doing something".

[eDave]

Originally Posted by staylor26

You’re a ****ing clown.

[TLO]

Masks to be mandated in Kansas starting next week.

[TLO]

How's everyone's TP supply? Our shelves were empty at Hyvee today.

[TLO]

People in Germany say no to lockdowns.

Scene from anti-covid-restrictions protest in Berlin pic.twitter.com/AOjVDZnqwn

— ian bremmer (@ianbremmer) November 18, 2020

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by TLO

How's everyone's TP supply? Our shelves were empty at Hyvee today.

Here, we have tight restrictions on family get togethers for Thanksgiving. Not sure what Sam's Club thinks that means, though.

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Looks like its about to be re-discussed on the news in LA tonight.

That kind of shit should be a terminable offense. You are putting people out of business in your state and disobeying the "rules" YOU implemented and doing it very obviously and knowingly.

But its OK, he apologized for making a "mistake". But we all know it wasn't a mistake.

Just to add to Newsome's birthday party fiasco.

California Medical Association officials were among the guests seated next to Gov. Gavin Newsom at a top California political operative’s opulent birthday dinner at the French Laundry restaurant this month. https://t.co/2t5oDjou1a

— POLITICO California (@politicoca) November 18, 2020