***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Turn on the news....tell me they aren't.

OMG, we gotta distance
OMG, we gotta shut down travel
OMG, we gotta shut down businesses
OMG, we gotta shut down schools
OMG, OMG, OMG

Still waiting for an example.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

Stop watching CNN.

Dude it's all of the. CNN, Fox, you name it. The media has scared the government officials into overreaction to a degree if you ask me.

[RunKC]

Idris Elba got it

This morning I tested positive for Covid 19. I feel ok, I have no symptoms so far but have been isolated since I found out about my possible exposure to the virus. Stay home people and be pragmatic. I will keep you updated on how I’m doing �������� No panic. pic.twitter.com/Lg7HVMZglZ

— Idris Elba (@idriselba) March 16, 2020

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Still waiting for an example.

Maybe you don't see and hear so well in that plastic bubble.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Turn on the news....tell me they aren't.

OMG, we gotta distance
OMG, we gotta shut down travel
OMG, we gotta shut down businesses
OMG, we gotta shut down schools
OMG, OMG, OMG

That's called being cautious and trying to stop the spread of a virus that hospitals are not prepared to treat. Failing to see how this makes it seem like anyone who gets it will end up dead?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by jjjayb

Sure would have made a heck of a lot more sense than all this nonsense. Can anyone tell me why we're having this reaction to Covid-19 but were so chill with the more deadly swine flu a few years ago?

Swine flu had nowhere near the case fatality rate that COVID-19 has thus far. The former was 0.02%. Thus far, COVID-19 appears to be 0.5% at an absolute minimum (25 times higher), and in some places, it's more like 3-5%.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

That's called being cautious and trying to stop the spread of a virus that hospitals are not prepared to treat. Failing to see how this makes it seem like anyone who gets it will end up dead?

Being cautious? Have you seen how people are acting? I mean we cant get TP, baby wipes or lysol because people are being "cautious"......

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by BWillie

Furthermore, every movie in theaters should be put on demand. I really want to see BEN AFFLECK IS...DRUNK BASKETBALL COACH.

The entertainment business is shutting down.

Production on Marvel TV shows for Disney+, Netflix, Amazon, FX along with ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox have all stopped production on their programs.

Disney+ moved up their release of Frozen 2 by three months and released the latest Star Wars film early. FF9 was postponed for a year and the new Bond movies shifted to November. Other "Tentpole" films will likely be delayed this summer.

I don't think you'll see a PPV option for movies that were schedule to released in the next few months but if this drags on to the Fall, we might see the release mechanism changed.

[BleedingRed]

So..... Unconfirmed reports of Entire Border shut down this week, and Houston Curfew.

Thank god I just got done building my new AR.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Dude it's all of the. CNN, Fox, you name it. The media has scared the government officials into overreaction to a degree if you ask me.

That ain't how it works. The more likely answer is the government officials have told the media how bad this could get. The government isn't going to take drastic measures and businesses aren't going to shut down if they don't know their bottom line is seriously at risk.

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I mean, I understand but other countries have drive-thru tests and hopefully they are fast-tracking that development. The idea that there are hundreds of thousands of infected people who haven't shown symptoms yet walking around and spreading this is what is putting the world on lock-down.

Here's a thread, political opinions within are not my own.

FINAL UPDATE (thread): My #COVID19 test came back positive.

I want to thank everyone for the outpouring of support. It means a lot to my family and me.

I am almost back to 100%. I’m lucky enough not to fall in the vulnerable category and, for me, it was just like the flu. 1/

— Daniel Goldman (@danielsgoldman) March 15, 2020

Go figure. Someone who had the Wuhan Flu and recovered just fine. Just like 99% of the rest of the people who have it. If there are hundreds of thousands of people walking around with this right now, I would say that's great news. It shows it's not near as dangerous as we're acting.

[ShowtimeSBMVP]

BREAKING: Universal Pictures is making some of its current film releases available on demand starting this week.

That includes The Invisible Man and The Hunt, which will be available on Apple, Amazon and other on demand services starting Friday for $19.99.

— Frank Pallotta (@frankpallotta) March 16, 2020

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Swine flu had nowhere near the case fatality rate that COVID-19 has thus far. The former was 0.02%. Thus far, COVID-19 appears to be 0.5% at an absolute minimum (25 times higher), and in some places, it's more like 3-5%.

But unlike Wuhan, the Swine flu killed healthy people.

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Being cautious? Have you seen how people are acting? I mean we cant get TP, baby wipes or lysol because people are being "cautious"......

That's not the media making it seem like if someone gets the virus they are going to die that's people's choice to do that.

The media has not made it seem like anyone who gets this will die. Quite the opposite actually so stop with your exaggeration.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

The entertainment business is shutting down.

Production on Marvel TV shows for Disney+, Netflix, Amazon, FX along with ABC, CBS, NBC and Fox have all stopped production on their programs.

Disney+ moved up their release of Frozen 2 by three months and released the latest Star Wars film early. FF9 was postponed for a year and the new Bond movies shifted to November. Other "Tentpole" films will likely be delayed this summer.

I don't think you'll see a PPV option for movies that were schedule to released in the next few months but if this drags on to the Fall, we might see the release mechanism changed.

All the shutting down is good but a lot of people are going to be losing jobs. I hope to hell the Fed Gov is stepping in so people don't get utilities shut off, credit reports ruined, etc., etc.