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Coogs · 08:16 PM

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QB Alex Smith tells NFL Total Access that Chiefs aren't running "cookie-cutter" offense and it isn't the same as what coach Andy Reid ran with Eagles and Packers. Catch the entire interview tonight at 7PM ET on NFL Total Access.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

I've been dancing the circular argument about Alex Smith since we traded for him. Here is my official final stance on the matter and I shall speak of it no more.

He gives us the best chance to win now. That is what the fanbase was screaming for using Pioli's win-loss record as a platform to preach that sermon. I like our staff, I'm uncertain as to how it will come out, however I remain optimistic.

Now. Shut the **** up about it until we play some games and see what happens. My allegiance is to the team, not any one player. If they **** up agai n (within a reasonable amount of time--3 years) then by all means fire up the biplanes and get the old banners out.

Right now nobody has been given a chance.

I concur.

But there are no excuses not to win now.

**Mav** · 07-20-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Again, thats not really relevant in terms of what he can do here under Andy Reid. He's going to be asked to do alot more, if history is any predictor of the future.

I hope his confidence from the last couple years carries over, because he's not going to be asked or told here to just take a sack and not be aggressive with the ball. If it doesn't, things won't be good.

Depends on if you believe what Alex Smith said or not.

"Coach Reid is phenomenal at playing to his players strengths."

Something to that effect. If that is true,, then all of this worrying over throwing the ball 50 times a game, and abandoning the run game, is all a bunch of bullshit.

GordonGekko · 07-20-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

LOL, the more you talk, the less and less I know, that you know about football. His way of football is obsolute? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Do you even know who they brought in to help with the offense? They brought in the CREATOR, of the RAGE OF THE NFL right now, the Pistol/ Read Option offense.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Bro, just stop. Lmao

I just look at results, the bottom line. They had the dream team setup in Philly and Reid shat all over it. His methods have been figured out (obviously), by other teams. Having superior personnel didn't help him either. The RAGE OF THE NFL is ****ing scoring more points than your opponent. Reid's teams have had trouble doing this for multiple seasons now. The Eagles realized this and jettisoned his fat ass for new potential in Chip Kelly. Have fun with 8-8 (sure as **** not this season) bro.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

He hasn't. his entire career he has been handing off to Frank Gore.

Also, people aren't listening. Alex Smith himself even said in his interview on NFL network that his first job was to hand off to Charles, and that Andy Reid, was building the offense, around the TEAMS STRENGTHS. Which, if you follow the draft, that's exactly what they did. Shored up the offensive line, kept albert, got a fullback for Charles, got a back up for Charles, signed a tight end who is considered a very good to elite blocker.

Like I said. Black and White. Andy Reid did it there, so hes going to do it here. Hes not going to do that here. There will be a happy medium. Most of that will be because Alex Smith has no problem checking to a run if he sees its the best option. Boooooo, qbs shouldn't do that, they should wing it. Pfffffff. Bullshit, you have one of the best Rbs in the league. Getting the ball to him, is option ONE, if you are a chiefs fan, and want to win.

So you really think Andy Reid is going to completely change his philosophy of how he runs an offense after 10 plus years?

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-20-2013, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I concur.

But there are no excuses not to win now.

Exactly. That is the move they made. They can't go back from it after a disastrous year and call it rebuilding. That'll make me hotter than a jalepeno pepper in a vat of spicy mayo.

**Mav** · 07-20-2013, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

So you really think Andy Reid is going to completely change his philosophy of how he runs an offense after 10 plus years?

Absolutely. I really do. Do I believe they will throw more than they pass? Sure. But I imagine it being a 55/45 pass to run ratio rather than a 70/30 pass to run......

Ace Gunner · 07-20-2013, 06:19 PM

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O.city · 07-20-2013, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Depends on if you believe what Alex Smith said or not.

"Coach Reid is phenomenal at playing to his players strengths."

Something to that effect. If that is true,, then all of this worrying over throwing the ball 50 times a game, and abandoning the run game, is all a bunch of bullshit.

You act as if he hasn't ever had a running back of Charles skillset before. He's had McCoy for the past few years.

I dont' think coaches change their stripes and I'm not excited about hiring a coach and immediately hoping he changes the things he does that were the reason you hired him.

O.city · 07-20-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick91579

Absolutely. I really do. Do I believe they will throw more than they pass? Sure. But I imagine it being a 55/45 pass to run ratio rather than a 70/30 pass to run......

He's never had a 70/30 pass to run ratio.

GordonGekko · 07-20-2013, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

he hired a guy who will run a pretty progressive Rex Ryan defense.

Lol, again my point that I'm trying to make is that successful teams stay on the fringe of NFL strategy, and don't retread the shit that other teams are doing. They forge their own path and go down it. This cookie cutter copy bullshit is not going to get you to the promised land. It will get you looking for another coach in three years.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 07-20-2013, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Bradford was considered by most to be an elite QB in that draft and clearly the best player in it. This draft? Only those on CP thought that about Geno.

No he was not. And he was not desired by many here either.

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Originally Posted by Buzz_TinBalls

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tredadda · 07-20-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

Dude, you gotta take the risk. That is the point. The Rams took the risk. It is not always going to pan out, but you still have to keep trying. Look at Indy, Jeff George shat all over them yet they didn't hesitate to take another QB when the time was right (Manning). Chiefs don't do this, and have not done so in 40+ years. What also hasn't happened in 40+ years for the Chiefs?

I agree with the last part of your post, but the rest is so wrong it is silly.

1. Taking the consensus #1 player in the draft who also happens to be an elite QB prospect when you need one at 1.1 is not taking a chance.

2. The Indy and Jeff George situation is different. They took a chance on another elite QB prospect in Peyton Manning. Prospects like him are very rare. They were at the right position at the right time to get him.

3. In spite of what some on here think Geno was nowhere near the prospect Manning or Bradford was.

4. Had we passed on a Luck or RGIII then your argument would have more merit. We did not. Geno is nowhere even close to their level.

5. We unfortunately got stuck with the #1 pick in the draft in a year when the QB class was far weaker than initially thought when that was by far our biggest need. Purely bad luck on our part.

6. I was a huge advocate to trade up for RGIII, some on here thought it was too risky. We passed on an elite QB prospect for Poe and Fisher so far.

7. To take a chance on a crappy prospect just to take a chance on one is foolish. There is a reason why Manuel was the first QB taken and it was near the end of the 1st round in spite of the fact many teams needed a QB.

**Mav** · 07-20-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by GordonGekko

I just look at results, the bottom line. They had the dream team setup in Philly and Reid shat all over it. His methods have been figured out (obviously), by other teams. Having superior personnel didn't help him either. The RAGE OF THE NFL is ****ing scoring more points than your opponent. Reid's teams have had trouble doing this for multiple seasons now. The Eagles realized this and jettisoned his fat ass for new potential in Chip Kelly. Have fun with 8-8 (sure as **** not this season) bro.

They had a dream team set up, with an OFFENSIVE LINE COACH as the Defensive Coordinator. They signed guys and put them in positions that wouldn't work them.

For instance. They put Aso as a ZONE COVER CORNER, who spent his entire career making his living as a press man corner. They tried to put Cullen Jenkins, a 5 tech elephant end in the 3-4, as a dtackle, in a wide nine base, that completely wasted what he does best.

Yes, I know exactly why they failed in Philly. Andy Reid had far too much control. Something he no longer has. Dorsey has that power, and Andy Reid is thankful for that. If this were the VERY same situation with Andy Reid, he was running the entire show, I would be worried and sad for Chiefs fans.

There is a reason that after the Seahawks, took away Mike Holmgrens total power, got him a gm, and let him focus solely on Coaching, that he was able to get back to the super bowl. I see these things. They aren't that difficult to understand. And yes, the Chiefs will win 8 games this year. 2 more than that to be exact. 10-6..........BRO.

**ShortRoundChief** · 07-20-2013, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

No he was not. And he was not desired by many here either.

Like **** we will.

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O.city · 07-20-2013, 06:24 PM

IIRC, Reid has always had about a 55/45 pass to run ratio, maybe a bit higher but not by much.

I don't really forsee that to be any different, but they're going to pass to set up the run IMO, just as Andy Reid teams always have, and really, I'm fine with that.

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