Gas on the Fire: Shutdown Corner Gives Chiefs "F" in FA.

[temper11]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

I think this is all the downside of parity. Parity is a HUGE part of what makes the NFL so great, compelling games week-in, week-out. But parity also means that even shitty teams are pretty damn good.

For as bad as we had it last year with a Jeckyl Hyde defense and a meltdown in the playoffs, imagine being a Packer fan, they are a blessed franchise, a model franchise, but one arm going up to Aaron Rodger's collarbone and they're INSTANTLY a middle of the road ho-hum team playing out the string, they had to know right away.

Same with us, after the 2011 string of ACLs, we breathe a sigh of relief. That was a fluke, that'll never happen again. Then we see what even minor irritations for Hali and Houston mean for us this past year.

Every single game in the NFL, there are things that happen off screen that, if a savvier set of players recognized it, would have resulted in vastly different outcomes. Some of the most moribund offenses in the league just plain fail to see free-running WRs open for TDs, or flailing OLmen whose deficits aren't being exploited.

The key these days is keeping healthy and having quality depth.

This is what made the Seahawks so exciting to watch throughout the playoffs. Were they the most dominant at every position in the history of the league, no. But they were the best at maximizing positives and minimizing negatives. Is this guy a ferocious playmaker? No, then have him occupy a player in space and let the playmakers make plays elsewhere. They weren't the '854 Bears, . . . but they looked like it because they met power with power and let weakness hide over with weakness.

I've said it before and I'll say it again here, an NFL team is like a naturally aspirated, carburetor fueled engine. One thing gets out of whack and the entire feedback loop is disrupted and the whole machine runs like dog shit. We have a lot of quality players who, if the MACHINE is running clean can rape faces, on O and on D. But you slow down the pass rush 1 millisecond and now you're relying on your FS to keep it all together and his dog shit rises to the surface and the entire swamp looks like a pile of dog shit. Alex can led a well oiled offense, but let Bowe have a few drops, or some of our less savvy WRs run bullshit routes, or barely concuss our best RB and take our 2nd best RB out with injury as well, and we're running the O with a Yugo power plant.

This was an excellent post.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by temper11

This was an excellent post.

One of the best takes I have seen on the board in a while. Finally a realistic take about the current NFL.

[Hammock Parties]

It's just weird. Going to a Chiefs game feels like going to Six Flags now. It's like a theme park for barbecue and gallows humor. SEE the latest episode in the Tragedy of Arrowhead!

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Douche Baggins

It's just weird. Going to a Chiefs game feels like going to Six Flags now. It's like a theme park for barbecue and gallows humor. SEE the latest episode in the Tragedy of Arrowhead!

Back in the 90's even though we were pretty sure we weren't going to a SB we knew we had a team that could beat anyone. The best teams in the league would come to Arrowhead and lose.

That's not the case now. These days we're lucky to sweep a 6-10 Raiders team...

[Easy 6]

Have we signed anyone lately?... no?

Whens the draft again?

[Hammock Parties]

Also, criticizing the Chiefs and trying to be funny about it is also getting old.

You can only say the same thing so many different ways.

So the alternate way we're trying to have fun with the Chiefs is also becoming less fun.

We would have to go to another level of inception with our fandom to actually be legitimate fans if this shit continues for another era.

WE ALL NEED OUR ****ING MINDS WIPED

[BossChief]

Just wait till next offseason.

2 OL starters (Allen and Hudson) are FAs as well as Houston and Alex Smith.

That has the potential to get really nasty.

[BossChief]

FTR, I don't even care that we didnt go after Desean Jackson...even though 8/yr for him was a good value. I'd rather have spend a little more than Denver to get Emmanuel Sanders.

Wards signed for less than 6
Sanders signed for 5
Deitrich Smith signed for 3.5
Clemons signed for around 4 iirc

Those were the values they should have pursued if they were serious about trying to contend next year without screwing the cap.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

FTR, I don't even care that we didnt go after Desean Jackson...even though 8/yr for him was a good value. I'd rather have spend a little more than Denver to get Emmanuel Sanders.

Wards signed for less than 6
Sanders signed for 5
Deitrich Smith signed for 3.5
Clemons signed for around 4 iirc

Those were the values they should have pursued if they were serious about trying to contend next year without screwing the cap.

Another Strong Safety when we need a Center Fielder. A WR with screws in his feet. A mother****ing Guard. And a Safety nobody seemed to have wanted.

No, they don't screw the cap. But we still have to shuffle our existing contracts around to free up space. It's basically taking out a loan with interest on the back. It may seem like a small deal to you. But because we wasted several years in the Pioli years, if we want to keep the window open past 3 years, every single dollar matters.

And we still wouldn't have solved how we extend Alex Smith, Justin Houston, and Eric Berry (Berry less so because he saves money through a restructure). Three guys who are more important than any free agent on your list if we're talking short-term window.

[BossChief]

Brainwashed into accepting mediocrity.

Not just accepting it, but full blown embracing it and even supporting it.

Sad.

I can't wait until you make excuses during the season while these glaring holes are still there and are preventing us from winning big games.

Oh well.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

Brainwashed into accepting mediocrity.

Not just accepting it, but full blown embracing it and even supporting it.

Sad.

Yeah, I'm brainwashed because I don't think the team Pioli and Dorsey built is good enough to win now. Because I think their golden boy QB, Alex Smith, needs more help than that because he's not Peyton Manning.

Meanwhile, you're sitting here telling me we are 2 or 3 pieces away from being legit Super Bowl contenders. And I'm the one who's towing the company line.

But feel free to keep piggybacking off of milkman's comments.

[BossChief]

I've held that opinion as long as anyone here. Go **** yourself for making that comment.

I've NEVER piggybacked off anyone's comments, ever.

I think this is a 8-10 win team that won't be able to compete during the playoffs because of the 2-3 huge holes it has...I also think this team has the potential to win 12 games if we had solidified its weaknesses through free agency and has a strong draft.

Not just 12 wins, but also a team that could beat ANYONE in the AFC in the playoffs.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I've held that opinion as long as anyone here.

I've NEVER piggybacked off anyone's comments, ever.

I think this is a 8-10 win team that won't be able to compete during the playoffs because of the 2-3 huge holes it has...I also think this team has the potential to win 12 games if we had solidified its weaknesses through free agency and has a strong draft.

Not just 12 wins, but also a team that could beat ANYONE in the AFC in the playoffs.

This is still a team that ended the season at 2-5 and while we were impressive in the Colts game, we still lost to a team that got whalloped by the Patriots (who didn't even win the conference. Denver then beat New England). And Denver and New England got a hell of a lot better this offseason. And then we face either Seattle, New Orleans, or San Fran in the Super Bowl?

So I don't disagree with you that today we are a bubble playoff team and we could actually win a playoff game with 2 or 3 holes fixed. But we are still a longshot to win a Super Bowl.

By the way… I don't believe in constantly waiting until next year. I want a big push in 2015 and would hardly call calling for Houston, Berry, and Smith extensions small potatoes.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

This is still a team that ended the season at 2-5 and while we were impressive in the Colts game, we still lost to a team that got whalloped by the Patriots (who didn't even win the conference. Denver then beat New England). And Denver and New England got a hell of a lot better this offseason. And then we face either Seattle, New Orleans, or San Fran in the Super Bowl?

So I don't disagree with you that today we are a bubble playoff team and we could actually win a playoff game with 2 or 3 holes fixed. But we are still a longshot to win a Super Bowl.

By the way… I don't believe in constantly waiting until next year. I want a big push in 2015 and would hardly call calling for Houston, Berry, and Smith extensions small potatoes.

You always push "next year" and always use "the salary cap" as an excuse why we shouldn't try to win THIS YEAR.

The reason: you are brainwashed because that's all this team has EVER done, sans the Joe Montana years.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BossChief

You always push "next year" and always use "the salary cap" as an excuse why we shouldn't try to win THIS YEAR.

The reason: you are brainwashed because that's all this team has EVER done, sans the Joe Montana years.

Right, because the Vermeil years were an exercise in responsible cap management and building through the draft. Because Peterson's push to fill holes in the early Herm years worked really well.

This team has been shitty in all phases of the game the last 20 years. Stop acting like my approach hasn't worked, but somehow yours has. We've sucked in the draft. And free agents haven't worked for us. It's both.