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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 11-13-2015, 04:29 PM   #466
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Some executive was on MLB network saying Eric Hosmer would be his #1 choice to build a team around. Might have been qualified by position player, I don't remember.
I remember someone like A-Rod saying something like that off the cuff, and it's ridiculous.

Trout, Harper, and Correa would obviously be WAY ahead of Hosmer...along with at least 20 others.
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Old 11-13-2015, 04:53 PM   #467
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Old 11-13-2015, 04:56 PM   #468
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I remember someone like A-Rod saying something like that off the cuff, and it's ridiculous.

Trout, Harper, and Correa would obviously be WAY ahead of Hosmer...along with at least 20 others.
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:09 PM   #469
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Without even getting into pitchers, off the top of my head...

Harper
Trout
Correa
Machado
Stanton
Betts
Sal Perez
Altuve
Heyward
Sano
Bryant
Rizzo
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:14 PM   #470
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Without even getting into pitchers, off the top of my head...

Harper
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Correa
Machado
Stanton
Betts
Sal Perez
Altuve
Heyward
Sano
Bryant
Rizzo
Kiermaier
Not one on that list has as many postseason RBI's as Hosmer and only Salvy has 3 straight GG's. And which one has stolen home in the World Series and brought his team a title? None.

You are selling Hos way short. He has the heart of a lion. I think his best years are still to come. I hope he retires a Royal.
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:15 PM   #471
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:17 PM   #472
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Not one on that list has as many postseason RBI's as Hosmer and only Salvy has 3 straight GG's. And which one has stolen home in the World Series and brought his team a title? None.

You are selling Hos way short. He has the heart of a lion. I think his best years are still to come. I hope he retires a Royal.
I hope so too, but Gold Gloves at first base and career postseason RBIs are pretty damned far down the list of things I'm looking to build a team around.
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Old 11-13-2015, 05:18 PM   #473
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I hope so too, but Gold Gloves at first base and career postseason RBIs are pretty damned far down the list of things I'm looking to build a team around.
Well it has worked out pretty good for the Royals so far.
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Thanks, I figured he didn't actually know what constitutes a stolen base. It IS halfwit posting...
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Call it what you want-that was an amazing play. I still can't believe he ran, but I am glad he did.
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Call it what you want-that was an amazing play. I still can't believe he ran, but I am glad he did.
Amazing play that was absolutely not a steal of home
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I fully expect the Angels to go after Alex Gordon. They desperately need a bat in left field, and his defense would be a bonus for them.

I'm still torn. It's not my money, so I'd love for them to get Gordon and Zobrist and an elite starter and more bullpen arms, but I know there's a limit. I'm just trying to figure out how much of that is my emotional attachment to Alex and who he's been vs. who he is and will be over the next 3-5 years.

GMDM nailed it with Billy, and I expect he'll do what's right by Alex.
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I fully expect the Angels to go after Alex Gordon. They desperately need a bat in left field, and his defense would be a bonus for them.

I'm still torn. It's not my money, so I'd love for them to get Gordon and Zobrist and an elite starter and more bullpen arms, but I know there's a limit. I'm just trying to figure out how much of that is my emotional attachment to Alex and who he's been vs. who he is and will be over the next 3-5 years.

GMDM nailed it with Billy, and I expect he'll do what's right by Alex.
Gordon, Trout, Simmons *swoon*
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