***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Not sure if you saw, but hospitalizations are at their lowest point today in about a month.

60 in St Joe.

Not sure I’d put much stock in that. Due to space and staffing issues they’ve cut back on hospitalizing patients. You’ve gotta be super sick to get a bed now

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Parsons is supposed to be holding a press conference in regards to hospital space amongst other things. I'm hopeful he'll give us an idea of how many doses of the Pfizer vaccine Missouri will be getting as well.

I have a close pharmacist friend who owns a couple in Arkansas. They’re being told to expect to have vaccines in hand by mid December and they already have the guidelines on who gets what

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

I have a close pharmacist friend who owns a couple in Arkansas. They’re being told to expect to have vaccines in hand by mid December and they already have the guidelines on who gets what

Interesting. The pharmacy we partner with still seems to be in the dark as far as what they will be receiving. They know they're gonna get some, they just don't know how much yet.

Or they know and just don't feel like telling us. That's a very real possibility as well.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Not sure if you saw, but hospitalizations are at their lowest point today in about a month.

60 in St Joe.

No..lol. Like I said good news never gets spread.

[Fish]

Britain OKs Pfizer vaccine and will begin shots within days

LONDON (AP) — Britain became the first country in the world to authorize a rigorously tested COVID-19 vaccine Wednesday and could be dispensing shots within days — a historic step toward eventually ending the outbreak that has killed more than 1.4 million people around the globe.

[Demonpenz]

Yesss sir

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Fish

Britain OKs Pfizer vaccine and will begin shots within days

LONDON (AP) — Britain became the first country in the world to authorize a rigorously tested COVID-19 vaccine Wednesday and could be dispensing shots within days — a historic step toward eventually ending the outbreak that has killed more than 1.4 million people around the globe.

Yeah we had a discussion about this earlier as to why we are waiting until the 10th to approve it and they are actually starting to ship it?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Fish

Britain OKs Pfizer vaccine and will begin shots within days

LONDON (AP) — Britain became the first country in the world to authorize a rigorously tested COVID-19 vaccine Wednesday and could be dispensing shots within days — a historic step toward eventually ending the outbreak that has killed more than 1.4 million people around the globe.

Why are we waiting so long to deploy?

Why are they pushing us to get poison injections?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by loochy

Why are we waiting so long to deploy?

Why are they pushing us to get poison injections?

Reasons....

[dirk digler]

Per KC news tonight, MO will get 150K doses and KS will get 145k before the end of the year. That doesn't seem very much.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Per KC news tonight, MO will get 150K doses and KS will get 145k before the end of the year. That doesn't seem very much.

It will be enough to focus on the high risk and front line workers that want it. We are going to have to let this flesh itself out a bit. Which again brings to question why the FDA isn't getting off their ass to approve these things a little quicker?

I mean seriously, if we know how many doses are going to each state and this is all but approved then why doesn't the FDA just approve this tomorrow? Why wait until next Thursday?

[petegz28]

Protests sparking in NY over restrictions

[dirk digler]

Only 83 ICU beds available in the KC area. Lines up with what my daughter told me about her hospital. They are over 100% capacity and had patients out in the hallway last weekend They are short staffed so they are bringing in staff from across the country.

Damn we had 2700 deaths today and over 100k hospitalizations.

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Protests sparking in NY over restrictions

Selfish people

[petegz28]

There it is, Fauci just said things going back to normal will be based on how many peopel get vaccinated. You want your business to go back to normal? You want to take the mask off? You want to go to a Chiefs game?

Get your vaccine.

That will be the next argument and political football.