***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Pants

Yeah, once I get that vaccine, I'm not wearing a mask. LOL

Yes you are....



I must amend....if you have your papers perhaps you don't.

[petegz28]

'Immunity Cards' To Be Issued To All Americans; Enable CDC To Track COVID-19 Vaxx Status In Database

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/co...-according-dod

[petegz28]

Job role for Wal-Mart Greeters just went to "Paper Checkers" as well.

[petegz28]

CDC director OKs coronavirus vaccine plan for health care workers, long-term care residents

https://www.foxnews.com/health/redfi...ccine-plan-cdc

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by petegz28

'Immunity Cards' To Be Issued To All Americans; Enable CDC To Track COVID-19 Vaxx Status In Database

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/co...-according-dod

Immunity cards have always been a thing right? I know I have one.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Immunity cards have always been a thing right? I know I have one.

I guess mine went through the wash too many times....

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Immunity cards have always been a thing right? I know I have one.

Not in every state. I don't believe there's any such thing as a Federal vaccination card.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Immunity cards have always been a thing right? I know I have one.

Ive never heard of it before. AFAIK, I don't have one.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I guess mine went through the wash too many times....

Oh don't worry. It's all in a database.

Did you read the article you posted?

If you lose it, THIRD PARTIES can just look up your status.

Which begs the question - if 3rd parties can access your status in the event of a lost or stolen card, why do we need the card in the first place? And if the card is the actual ID, why do we need a 3rd party database?

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

'Immunity Cards' To Be Issued To All Americans; Enable CDC To Track COVID-19 Vaxx Status In Database

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/co...-according-dod

You need to stop this stupid bullshit.

Those cards are vaccine reminders given to patients so that they know when they need to return for a booster. The same thing happens with Shingrix, which is given in a two dose series 2-6 months after the initial injection.

Moreover, in most every state that I know of every pharmacist that immunizes by a standing protocol is required to submit proof of vaccination to the primary care provider.

Here is an excerpt from Missouri's statute:

(A) The patient’s primary health care provider, if provided by the patient, is notified of the following within fourteen (14) days of administering a vaccine:
1. The identity of the patient;
2. The vaccine administered;
3. The route of administration;
4. The anatomic site of the administration;
5. The dose administered; and
6. The date of administration;
(B) The prescriber is notified within twenty-four (24) hours after learning of an adverse event or reaction experienced by a patient following administration. Notification is mandatory and cannot be waived;
(C) Any notifications required by state and federal law are properly completed and documented; and (D) Notifications required by this section
may be made electronically or in writing or via a common electronic medication record that is accessible to and shared by both the
physician and pharmacist. Documentation of the required notifications, including the notification date, must be maintained as required by subsection (6)(B) or electronically retrievable at the request of the board or the board’s
authorized designee.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

You need to stop this stupid bullshit.

Those cards are vaccine reminders given to patients so that they know when they need to return for a booster. The same thing happens with Shingrix, which is given in a two dose series 2-6 months after the initial injection.

Moreover, in most every state that I know of every pharmacist that immunizes by a standing protocol is required to submit proof of vaccination to the primary care provider.

Here is an excerpt from Missouri's statute:

(A) The patient’s primary health care provider, if provided by the patient, is notified of the following within fourteen (14) days of administering a vaccine:
1. The identity of the patient;
2. The vaccine administered;
3. The route of administration;
4. The anatomic site of the administration;
5. The dose administered; and
6. The date of administration;
(B) The prescriber is notified within twenty-four (24) hours after learning of an adverse event or reaction experienced by a patient following administration. Notification is mandatory and cannot be waived;
(C) Any notifications required by state and federal law are properly completed and documented; and (D) Notifications required by this section
may be made electronically or in writing or via a common electronic medication record that is accessible to and shared by both the
physician and pharmacist. Documentation of the required notifications, including the notification date, must be maintained as required by subsection (6)(B) or electronically retrievable at the request of the board or the board’s
authorized designee.

I'll email Zerohedge and tell them to retract MY article.....thanks, Hamas. You are a ray of sunshine as usual.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Oh don't worry. It's all in a database.

Did you read the article you posted?

If you lose it, THIRD PARTIES can just look up your status.

Which begs the question - if 3rd parties can access your status in the event of a lost or stolen card, why do we need the card in the first place? And if the card is the actual ID, why do we need a 3rd party database?

Because the Wal-Mart guy won't look you up. Wear your mask or show your papers!!!!

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Glad we waited

WSJ: Pfizer now expects to ship half the doses it had originally planned, from 100 million doses down to 50 million, after finding raw materials in early production didn’t meet its standards.https://t.co/82Malmr24u

— Michael Del Moro (@MikeDelMoro) December 3, 2020

You have to cook thoroughly or else the center dough will be underdone and that just leaves a weird texture.

[ChiliConCarnage]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

Oh don't worry. It's all in a database.

Did you read the article you posted?

If you lose it, THIRD PARTIES can just look up your status.

Which begs the question - if 3rd parties can access your status in the event of a lost or stolen card, why do we need the card in the first place? And if the card is the actual ID, why do we need a 3rd party database?

The cards are created by the Operation Warp Speed project so patients that don't want to give their mobile number for a text reminder can keep track of their appointment date for the second shot. It's in the article.

edit: the article zerohedge/doom porn is sourcing from

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ChiliConCarnage

The cards are created by the Operation Warp Speed project so patients that don't want to give their mobile number for a text reminder can keep track of their appointment date for the second shot. It's in the article.

There's plenty more in the article than just that, though. That's my point.