***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[MahomesMagic]

Promising Covid vaccine in Australia abandoned after trial participants test false positive for HIV

Australia has abandoned the trial of a locally developed vaccine against Covid-19 after some trial participants showed false HIV positive results.

The vaccine was being developed by the University of Queensland (UQ) and biotech firm CSL, which was one of the four main candidates contracted by the Australian government for coronavirus vaccines.

According to a statement from the Australian government, the evidence from the University of Queensland’s phase one clinical trials showed the vaccine to be safe and that it produced a strong immune response able to neutralise the Covid-19 virus.

But it explained that as part of the vaccine’s design, the university’s researchers included a small fragment of a protein taken from the HIV virus, glycoprotein 41 (gp41), which was used to create a “molecular clamp” to hold the vaccine’s synthetic virus in place.

“Although the university’s researchers have confirmed the protein fragment poses absolutely no health risk to people who have taken the vaccine, they have identified a partial antibody response to it among trial participants. This has the potential to interfere with some HIV screening tests that look for these antibodies – leading to a false positive test result,” the statement said.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-b1769841.html

Yikes.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

Okay, time to break out the crayons...

We know this is spread by humans. Indoor dining includes people from multiple households, where masks are removed during eating. Therefore, it is an increases the risk of bringing the virus home.

So, they are going to mitigate that risk. It's pretty simple.

.....so close everything!!!! EVERYTHING!!!! RISK!

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by petegz28

.....so close everything!!!! EVERYTHING!!!! RISK!

Donger going to be so sad when normal life resumes.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by petegz28

.....so close everything!!!! EVERYTHING!!!! RISK!

They aren't closing everything, pete.

Maybe you should actually get some facts before you state things.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Donger going to be so sad when normal life resumes.

On the contrary. I'll be thrilled. We'd get there sooner if certain people wouldn't go around saying things that aren't accurate.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Donger

They aren't closing everything, pete.



Maybe you should actually get some facts before you state things.

So despite there being no data to support it..the only risk is indoor dining.....got it

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[petegz28]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Donger going to be so sad when normal life resumes.

Dude is talking in some dizzying circles today....

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['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by petegz28

So despite there being no data to support it..the only risk is indoor dining.....got it

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There is data to support it. The mask study that you incorrectly read as saying masks have no efficacy showed a decided increase in COVID cases among those who dined indoors in restaurants compared to those who don't.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6936a5.htm

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Dude is talking in some dizzying circles today....

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When I think of him I think of the line from 1984, "We've always been at war with Eastasia".

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

There is data to support it. The mask study that you incorrectly read as saying masks have no efficacy showed a decided increase in COVID cases among those who dined indoors in restaurants compared to those who don't.

https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6936a5.htm

What mask study are you taking about? Regardless are you saying it's good to close places where at least some people wear masks to leave them no choice other than to congregate where no one wears masks?

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[Donger]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

When I think of him I think of the line from 1984, "We've always been at war with Eastasia".

Still think that COVID-19 is not a contagious disease?

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by Donger

Still think that COVID-19 is not a contagious disease?

Still dumb as a box of rocks?!


What is the difference between SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19?

In 2019, a new coronavirus was identified as the cause of a disease outbreak that originated in China. The virus is now known as the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). The disease it causes is called coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20479963

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

What mask study are you taking about? Regardless are you saying it's good to close places where at least some people wear masks to leave them no choice other than to congregate where no one wears masks?

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No choice?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Still dumb as a box of rocks?!


What is the difference between SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19?

In 2019, a new coronavirus was identified as the cause of a disease outbreak that originated in China. The virus is now known as the severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2). The disease it causes is called coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...s/syc-20479963

Sure, I can re-post my words:

COVID-19 is a contagious disease. It is spread by the transmission of the SARS-CoV-2 virus.

Do you still dispute that COVID-19 is a contagious disease?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by stumppy

No choice?

That goes both ways, bro....kinda like you

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