Chiefs Thoughts on Preseason Game #2 - Page 33

**petegz28** · 08-18-2012, 08:32 PM

No sense in waiting for this to end.

Break it down

Hammock Parties · 08-19-2012, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

The reason the Chiefs lost the game was not because they threw more than than they ran. They lost because they got down early, and turnovers.

If anything Cassel kept them in the game by passing.

It has nothing to do with winning or losing.

It has to do with what Cassel did in the game, which was a bunch of bullshit that people are now praising.

Which is exactly what happened in the last preseason game last year when he was 15 of 17.

Messier · 08-19-2012, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Why don't you look up some stats on some of the best teams in the league.

See how often they throw.

See how often they run.

Then get back to me.

Hint: they throw more than they run.

This isn't 1995.

That is correct, the only playoff team to do that was the 49ers.

Chiefnj2 · 08-19-2012, 09:02 PM

Orton moves the ball and he's a god. Cassel moves the ball and people go back to 2009. Got it.

Messier · 08-19-2012, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

It has nothing to do with winning or losing.

It has to do with what Cassel did in the game, which was a bunch of bullshit that people are now praising.

Which is exactly what happened in the last preseason game last year when he was 15 of 17.

By the way he had two more passes over 15 yards.

Messier · 08-19-2012, 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

It has nothing to do with winning or losing.

It has to do with what Cassel did in the game, which was a bunch of bullshit that people are now praising.

Which is exactly what happened in the last preseason game last year when he was 15 of 17.

And sorry, that's not what coogs is arguing.

Hammock Parties · 08-19-2012, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Orton moves the ball and he's a god. Cassel moves the ball and people go back to 2009. Got it.

Orton moved the ball because he threw the ball down the field.

Interestingly enough, the only good drive we had with Cassel in that game, the only TD we scored? He threw the ball down the field.

Funny how that works.

Hammock Parties · 08-19-2012, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

By the way he had two more passes over 15 yards.

He threw three passes over 15 yards for the whole game.

They all came on the same drive.

We scored a TD on that drive.

More of that, not that dink and dunk bullshit, thanks.

Coogs · 08-19-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

The reason the Chiefs lost the game was not because they threw more than than they ran. They lost because they got down early, and turnovers.

If anything Cassel kept them in the game by passing.

Maybe. And maybe if the full game is played out with starters we comeback and win with Cassel throwing the ball more than we run it. That has happened before.

Bottom line is though, chances are when we throw it more than we run it, we are going to lose.

Clay is onto something. Checkdowns are not going to get it done. Looks good on the stat sheet though.

Messier · 08-19-2012, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

He threw three passes over 15 yards for the whole game.

They all came on the same drive.

We scored a TD on that drive.

More of that, not that dink and dunk bullshit, thanks.

I agree.

Coogs · 08-19-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

And sorry, that's not what coogs is arguing.

Clay and I are not always on the same page. This time/issue we are.

Frankie · 08-19-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

He looked pretty good considering Bowe wasn't playing.

Bowe is gonna open the offense up if Cassel can distibute the ball effectively.

Barret's post (#436) is on the money. Cassel has minimal to no field vision. Imagine the receiver on top of Clay's photo being Bowe. It doesn't make a difference if Cassel is too bereft of peripheral vision to see him. Cassel's mind tends to lock on the receiver he wanted in the 1st place. If said receiver is covered he's screwed, and by extension, so are we.

Frankie · 08-19-2012, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

I too have facts. Throw to Jon Baldwin but incomplete = win

Throw to Jon Baldwin complete but fumbles = lose.

Therefore, we must not complete passes to Jon Baldwin.

Disprove that.

Cassel posts under userid Messier.

crazycoffey · 08-20-2012, 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

Bowe catches that ball Cassel throws in the end zone. Is anyone else not impressed with Baldwin at all?

Baldwin was covered on about only that play. Swear to god. Im not a coach or a qb and Baldwin got almost no looks in my opinion. At least, the very least, 5 plays the ball should have been thrown his way. Im not even trolling, the outcome would have been dramaticly improved.

chuxtrux · 08-20-2012, 12:06 AM

I thought Romeo looked sad. He's been coaching a while and he's been in a lot of games. I think he was wondering if it was all worth it. The long hours. The time away from his family. His whole life was spent on a child's game. He wasn't changing his community through advanced medicine skills or using his leadership to change policies. He is getting old and I think he is starting to wonder for purpose in his life. I think that's why the team play soft. It could also be because of the TWA Dome. That doesn't spark the rugged individualism personality traits you need to have to succeed in football. I don't think any of these things are permanent. Sometimes all it takes is a good night sleep to get out of one of those moods.

**petegz28** · 08-20-2012, 06:26 AM

Clay is pissed because when we were pinned deep in our own territory and down 14-0, Cassel didn't come out throwing 40 yard bombs from our 10 yard line.

08-18-2012, 08:32 PM
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08-20-2012, 12:06 AM	#494
chuxtrux Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Grbacs basement Casino cash: $10004990	I thought Romeo looked sad. He's been coaching a while and he's been in a lot of games. I think he was wondering if it was all worth it. The long hours. The time away from his family. His whole life was spent on a child's game. He wasn't changing his community through advanced medicine skills or using his leadership to change policies. He is getting old and I think he is starting to wonder for purpose in his life. I think that's why the team play soft. It could also be because of the TWA Dome. That doesn't spark the rugged individualism personality traits you need to have to succeed in football. I don't think any of these things are permanent. Sometimes all it takes is a good night sleep to get out of one of those moods.
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08-20-2012, 06:26 AM	#495
petegz28 Supporter Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Olathe, Ks Casino cash: $-1175873	Clay is pissed because when we were pinned deep in our own territory and down 14-0, Cassel didn't come out throwing 40 yard bombs from our 10 yard line.
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