Brett Veach hopes Chris Jones can play next week; increased talks last 2 days

[RunKC]

For the mega thread hating crew

#Chiefs GM Brett Veach says he's hopeful that DT Chris Jones will play in their season opener vs. the Lions, which is just eight days away.

Veach mentioned that there has been increased communication on an extension over the past two days. pic.twitter.com/MpLGt0mYhz

— Ari Meirov (@MySportsUpdate) August 30, 2023

[RINGLEADER]

The strategy appears to be hold out and hope the Chiefs lose so I can get more money for myself. His right but there is so much downside in this approach it just boggles the mind that he thinks this is a smart way to do it.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by Fishels

I still don’t really understand how a player can just choose not to play when they are under a contract. I’m not asking people to explain it because I don’t really care(and I’m sure it has been explained 100 times before). But it’s really dumb. Unless it’s an injury or family emergency you have to play on your team with your contract.

It’s really depressing because we simply don’t need this hanging over us. The chiefs can go back to back without Jones but I’d prefer to give it a go with him thank you very much. It’s making my hype for the opening of the season go down in all honesty

This is pretty much where I'm at only I haven't drank water in 14 days while protesting.

[dlphg9]

Originally Posted by Fishels

I still don’t really understand how a player can just choose not to play when they are under a contract. I’m not asking people to explain it because I don’t really care(and I’m sure it has been explained 100 times before). But it’s really dumb. Unless it’s an injury or family emergency you have to play on your team with your contract.

It’s really depressing because we simply don’t need this hanging over us. The chiefs can go back to back without Jones but I’d prefer to give it a go with him thank you very much. It’s making my hype for the opening of the season go down in all honesty

Easy, they can't force him to play and they don't have to pay him.

[dlphg9]

This is really souring me on the dude. He's clearly an idiot or is getting really bad info. The constant cryptic shit is annoying as hell. He's been much more annoying to me than Tyreek Hill has. I love Chris Jones, but shit he's really played this terribly bad.

[ThyKingdomCome15]

I don't like the way he's going about it either but I don't see Veach getting around it. We're looking to hang another banner and without Chris Jones our defense likely won't hold up in the Playoffs.

[TribalElder]

Chris Jones isn't in KC, he must have killed Jimmy Buffet

[chiefzilla1501]

Crazy offseason. Is there any precedent for this many holdouts in one season?

Nfl salaries are due for a mega correction. We’ve seen an insane run on mega deals and we ain’t even done yet. It’s not that jones isn’t worth Donald money, it’s that Donald’s money existed in a universe where lots of free money was floating around. The bright side is that as nfl position group salaries reset, chiefs will again be able to find affordable talent. Bad news is this offseason looks to be a last ditch effort for players to use old benchmarks.

So where does it go from here? Because QBs are locked in long term. I’m assuming the salary cap will go up?

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Crazy offseason. Is there any precedent for this many holdouts in one season?

Nfl salaries are due for a mega correction. We’ve seen an insane run on mega deals and we ain’t even done yet. It’s not that jones isn’t worth Donald money, it’s that Donald’s money existed in a universe where lots of free money was floating around. The bright side is that as nfl position group salaries reset, chiefs will again be able to find affordable talent. Bad news is this offseason looks to be a last ditch effort for players to use old benchmarks.

So where does it go from here? Because QBs are locked in long term. I’m assuming the salary cap will go up?

there is no 'bad news' - Next. Man. Up!

[FringeNC]

Has Chris Jones' holdout affected any betting markets? Week 1 line? Super Bowl odds? ANYTHING?

With Chris Jones trying to squeeze every last dime out of the Chiefs like this, to hell with him. Use the money on the offensive line instead. If you keep Mahomes upright the Chiefs are almost impossible to beat.

[MIAdragon]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

Easy, they can't force him to play and they don't have to pay him.

Can they still choose not to pay him when his stupid ass finally decides to show up? Can they divert the money that was budgeted for him to another player who actually wants to play?

[Delano]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

The strategy appears to be hold out and hope the Chiefs lose so I can get more money for myself. His right but there is so much downside in this approach it just boggles the mind that he thinks this is a smart way to do it.

The reason the Chiefs are not submitting to Jones and Katz is because they don’t want to compromise future cap flexibility. Why would losing one game change that strategy? I doubt your theory is Jones’ approach at all.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Delano

The reason the Chiefs are not submitting to Jones and Katz is because they don’t want to compromise future cap flexibility. Why would losing one game change that strategy? I doubt your theory is Jones’ approach at all.

Of course that’s his approach at this point. He’s attempting to use the threat of losing games in his absence as leverage to achieve a better contract. It’s not like they’re 20mm/yr apart - it’s probably ~3mm/yr that the Chiefs could certainly make happen but don’t feel they should. Jones hopes that the threat of having a season upended in his absence is enough to wring some concession from the team.

His thought is: lose some money here upfront by missing games but make up for it with a better contract when the defense struggles in his absence and the team caves.

It’s a bold strategy, Cotton.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by Delano

The reason the Chiefs are not submitting to Jones and Katz is because they don’t want to compromise future cap flexibility. Why would losing one game change that strategy? I doubt your theory is Jones’ approach at all.

Seriously? You dont see how Jones would think if KC loses without him, it would better his position? Of course he thinks that.

[TEX]

Originally Posted by TwistedChief

Of course that’s his approach at this point. He’s attempting to use the threat of losing games in his absence as leverage to achieve a better contract. It’s not like they’re 20mm/yr apart - it’s probably ~3mm/yr that the Chiefs could certainly make happen but don’t feel they should. Jones hopes that the threat of having a season upended in his absence is enough to wring some concession from the team.

His thought is: lose some money here upfront by missing games but make up for it with a better contract when the defense struggles in his absence and the team caves.

It’s a bold strategy, Cotton.

Exactly, if he's going to keep this up, it's really his only play now.

[TLO]

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