Let's Talk About the Bills, 2023 Divisional Round Edition

[Bearcat]

Discuss.

[Hammock Parties]

The Chiefs are 8-2 with Hochuli in the Mahomes era, including 2-0 in the playoffs.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DRM08

But you have lost 3 of 4 against Buffalo. Another loss would be 4 of 5 and it starts to become a mental problem for KC moving forward. You want to beat your main rivals at least 50% of the time. Both sides really need to win this game for different reasons.

Whatever works for their motivation, I guess.

The Bengals winning in the AFCCG last year would have gotten me there... I didn't really care about the regular season losses, but then lose a 2nd AFCCG and it starts to get extreme.

Not sure how much Mahomes cares about the Bills winning a couple regular season games when he's 3-3 overall and 2-0 in the playoffs. I personally don't care nearly as much this time if the Bills get theirs in the playoffs for the first time, but if that stat is grinding Mahomes' gears, whatever helps.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Pasta Little Brother

We pretty much do...Watson

Watson doesn't see the field on a team with good WRs. If he does its like 90 yards for the year.

[Bl00dyBizkitz]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Whatever works for their motivation, I guess.

The Bengals winning in the AFCCG last year would have gotten me there... I didn't really care about the regular season losses, but then lose a 2nd AFCCG and it starts to get extreme.

Not sure how much Mahomes cares about the Bills winning a couple regular season games when he's 3-3 overall and 2-0 in the playoffs. I personally don't care nearly as much this time if the Bills get theirs in the playoffs for the first time, but if that stat is grinding Mahomes' gears, whatever helps.

I think he lack of a road playoff win and being the villain will be plenty to get Mahomes laser focused. Same with the rest of the team.

[BWillie]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

Dude just hit Josh Allen. I dont care if he slides or not. Hit him. Take the penalty. I do not want to put up with this dude taking advantage of the QB safety rule when he's like 245 and can truck DBs. Hit him if he runs.

There's blood in the water

[Chieftain]

Hochuli is aight in my book. At least we can be assured the refs won't affect the outcome. Team is fully healthy, aside from Cook. I can taste the victory.

[ARROW2]

Originally Posted by DRM08

Pretty much ancient history at this point. Tyreek is gone. He played a major role in those 2 wins. Philadelphia just showed us how true the old saying is about NFL meaning Not For Long. They went from a Super Bowl level team a year ago to falling apart this season after a 10-1 start.

WE AIN'T PHILLY!!!

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Whatever works for their motivation, I guess.

The Bengals winning in the AFCCG last year would have gotten me there... I didn't really care about the regular season losses, but then lose a 2nd AFCCG and it starts to get extreme.

Not sure how much Mahomes cares about the Bills winning a couple regular season games when he's 3-3 overall and 2-0 in the playoffs. I personally don't care nearly as much this time if the Bills get theirs in the playoffs for the first time, but if that stat is grinding Mahomes' gears, whatever helps.

I would hope like hell the coaches are aware of it and drilling it into all of the players this week. And of course, Mahomes cannot do it by himself. The Toney offsides penalty last time against Buffalo is the kind of back-breaking mistake that they cannot afford if they want to win games against good teams.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by penguinz

It wasn't a fake slide. It was just a white dude being white.

Playoff Josh Allen is HIM#BillsMafia @BuffaloPlus pic.twitter.com/pwFpoVDRiC

— Dan Fetes (@danfetes) January 16, 2024

It was a fake slide, that video is a shitty angle. Josh slows clear down and his shoulders go back well behind his feet, the defenders pull up and he then takes off. It was bullshit. Also, on the roughing penalty on his next slide, they should not get protection from sliding if it is a designed running play.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

It's more obvious on this angle. I don't think it's awful and I can see how it could be considered awkward juking, but he clearly leans back, too, making it look like he'll slide.

Seems like the defender most likely to tackle him read it as a juke though.. typically a defender will continue running at a QB who's sliding and then jump over them or whatever, while that guy pulled up and acted like he was trying to contain.... I dunno, I don't think it was terrible.

You also have to consider the history of the player. I cannot think of one time Allen has slid when the defenders were not right on him. He looks for contact vs avoiding it.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz

I think he lack of a road playoff win and being the villain will be plenty to get Mahomes laser focused. Same with the rest of the team.

Yeah, and I'm not worried about it at all... being in the playoffs is enough for Mahomes, it's what he lives for.

This talk about "who wants it more" gets silly at a certain point this time of year for teams that truly know what it takes ... and people tend to act like there's some unlimited supply of motivation and focus to tap into.

Like when people used to say "I watch the 50 years of shit football to make the Super Bowl wins that much better!!" ...dude, unless you're in a continuous orgasm for 6 days, there's no extra super duper excited.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

Not sure how much Mahomes cares about the Bills winning a couple regular season games when he's 3-3 overall and 2-0 in the playoffs. I personally don't care nearly as much this time if the Bills get theirs in the playoffs for the first time, but if that stat is grinding Mahomes' gears, whatever helps.

I think we caught a glimpse back in December

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief

It was a fake slide, that video is a shitty angle. Josh slows clear down and his shoulders go back well behind his feet, the defenders pull up and he then takes off. It was bullshit. Also, on the roughing penalty on his next slide, they should not get protection from sliding if it is a designed running play.

Once you decide to be a RB and get within a certain distance of the defender, you should NEVER be allowed to slide and use that as some sort of defense against a late hit. F that. You are either a RB or a QB that's running. If it's the former, then all bets are off. If it's the latter, then you better have your feet and ass sliding well before the defender gets there.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by DRM08

I would hope like hell the coaches are aware of it and drilling it into all of the players this week. And of course, Mahomes cannot do it by himself. The Toney offsides penalty last time against Buffalo is the kind of back-breaking mistake that they cannot afford if they want to win games against good teams.

Yeah, that's an ongoing challenge year to year, as you know Mahomes will be locked in, this year's defense will be locked in.... but then you have head-in-ass plays like MVS and Hardman this past weekend, and someone like Taylor who continues to do stupid shit.

It's not as easy to say "the team" will be locked in as old champs leave and new guys come in who haven't been there.

[mr. tegu]

Allen had zero turnovers. He’s definitely making up for that in this game.