***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[dirk digler]

I haven’t had any bad side effects and the only mild one is as the day has gone on my shot arm has gotten more sore. So far so good.

[R Clark]

[QUOTE=dirk digler;15407042]I agree we have a lot of unhealthy people including me at times. Obesity, smoking, and lots of drug and alcohol abuse are big contributors to our unhealthiness.

When it comes to obesity people who live in rural areas have a higher rate of being obese.[/your so full of shit I can smell you over here

[TLO]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Dude. I'm married to a special education teacher and the son of another. If you think I approve of that one, you have no idea who I even am.

I have no idea what it has to do with you insisting that covid is the flu though.

Very cool. I've made a career out of working with kids/adults with developmental disabilities.

[TLO]

BTW Moderna was given the green light on the EUA. Distribution should begin shortly.

[dirk digler]

[QUOTE=R Clark;15407059]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

I agree we have a lot of unhealthy people including me at times. Obesity, smoking, and lots of drug and alcohol abuse are big contributors to our unhealthiness.

When it comes to obesity people who live in rural areas have a higher rate of being obese.[/your so full of shit I can smell you over here

I live in a rural area and I didn't pull this out of my ass

Per the CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...ity-rates.html

Obesity prevalence was significantly higher among adults living in rural counties (34.2 percent) than among those living in metropolitan counties (28.7 percent)

[stevieray]

[QUOTE=dirk digler;15407082]

Originally Posted by R Clark

I live in a rural area and I didn't pull this out of my ass

Per the CDC

https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...ity-rates.html

Same here and drive to KC for work.

There's no shortage of overweight people in either places.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by stevieray

Same here and drive to KC for work.

There's no shortage of overweight people in either places.

Yeah all I said was rural areas have a higher rate which they do. Less to do in rural areas other than to get fat and pregnant.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by TLO

Very cool. I've made a career out of working with kids/adults with developmental disabilities.

my wife taught learning disability/Behavior disorder classes for years.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Very cool. I've made a career out of working with kids/adults with developmental disabilities.

Is that what lead you to this board?

[AustinChief]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

smoking, and lots of drug and alcohol abuse are big contributors

I need to hang out with you from now on! Will there be hookers too?

Sent from my moto g(7) power using Tapatalk

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Is that what lead you to this board?

Take your thumbs up and GFY and happy holidays.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

The collective health of people living in the US is terrible which probably contributes a lot to the numbers. I'm putting out the facts and getting a few "well, I know a guy" responses.

40% of the country is obese, but "WEAR YOUR DAMN MASK FOR MY HEALTH!"

The number one risk factor for this seems to be age. Last couple things I've read had obesity not quite at the risk factor level they initially thought.

It's definitely a risk factor for various other issues and a big problem, causes a huge bog on health care and health care costs yearly.

I'm not sure the solution.

[O.city]

Study demonstrating symptomatic #COVID19 cases are more likely to transmit infection vs asymptomatic.

"the incidence of COVID19 among close contacts of a symptomatic index case was 3.85 times higher than for close contacts of an asymptomatic index case".https://t.co/cXbt3cTkmg pic.twitter.com/au9BTH3KMz

— Isaac Bogoch (@BogochIsaac) December 19, 2020

good study on drivers of infection.

Looks like truly asymptomatic infections are transmitting much at all, bodes well for vaccines and such.

Presymptomatic is still our biggest problem. Not sure there's a way to control it.

[MahomesMagic]

Originally Posted by O.city

Study demonstrating symptomatic #COVID19 cases are more likely to transmit infection vs asymptomatic.

"the incidence of COVID19 among close contacts of a symptomatic index case was 3.85 times higher than for close contacts of an asymptomatic index case".https://t.co/cXbt3cTkmg pic.twitter.com/au9BTH3KMz

— Isaac Bogoch (@BogochIsaac) December 19, 2020

good study on drivers of infection.

Looks like truly asymptomatic infections are transmitting much at all, bodes well for vaccines and such.

Presymptomatic is still our biggest problem. Not sure there's a way to control it.

As someone else pointed out that 0.7% no symptom spread with a 95% CI which starts zero %. That is a statistical insignificance.

— No Problem ☀️ (@venivici27) December 19, 2020

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

As someone else pointed out that 0.7% no symptom spread with a 95% CI which starts zero %. That is a statistical insignificance.

— No Problem ☀️ (@venivici27) December 19, 2020

That was one of the things that always stuck out.

You have to PRESUME you have it and have to PRESUME you are asymptomatic, yet are still "contagious"