***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[loochy]

Welp, the wife just got the Pfizer. She's not dead from anaphylaxis yet. She told me that she can already hear voices from the 5g nanochip implant though. She has to come back in 3 weeks for the second dose.

[Johnny Vegas]

Originally Posted by loochy

Welp, the wife just got the Pfizer. She's not dead from anaphylaxis yet. She told me that she can already hear voices from the 5g nanochip implant though. She has to come back in 3 weeks for the second dose.

The vaccine doesn’t have a ****ing microchip in it. It does have U2’s new album in it though.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by loochy

Welp, the wife just got the Pfizer. She's not dead from anaphylaxis yet. She told me that she can already hear voices from the 5g nanochip implant though. She has to come back in 3 weeks for the second dose.

Tell her to stand between the microwave and a window facing north. Then run the microwave for about 20 seconds with nothing in it. It will either re-calibrate the chip or fry it. Either way problem fixed.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Tell her to stand between the microwave and a window facing north. Then run the microwave for about 20 seconds with nothing in it. It will either re-calibrate the chip or fry it. Either way problem fixed.

I figure the second dose will fix that.

[DaFace]

Here's a good article about the mutation issues. To answer the earlier question about where they came up with the 70% figure, it's based on modeling the growth they have observed. So yeah, while kind of interesting, take it with a grain of salt.

The New York Times: The Coronavirus Is Mutating. What Does That Mean for Us?.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/20/h...n-variant.html

[TLO]

Lowest number of inpatients at our local hospital since October 10th .

[R Clark]

Well that’s good news

[Donger]

A worker gives a thumbs up while transporting boxes containing the Moderna COVID-19 vaccine to the loading dock for shipping at the McKesson distribution center in Olive Branch, Miss., Sunday, Dec. 20, 2020. (AP Photo/Paul Sancya, Pool)

[Chief Roundup]

Is this gonna work on the "new strain" that has made the Prime Minister Boris Johnson lockdown UK again?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Is this gonna work on the "new strain" that has made the Prime Minister Boris Johnson lockdown UK again?

It would be very surprising if it didn't.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Is this gonna work on the "new strain" that has made the Prime Minister Boris Johnson lockdown UK again?

It should, yes.

Operation Warp Speed head Moncef Slaoui speaks with CNN on Sunday, December 20. CNN
It is “very unlikely” that the vaccines currently available will not be effective on the reported new variant of Covid-19 in the United Kingdom, Operation Warp Speed head Moncef Slaoui told CNN on Sunday.

“Up to now, I don’t think there has been a single variant that would be resistant to the vaccine,” Slaoui said. “We can’t exclude it, but it’s not there now.”
Slaoui said that Covid-19 may be prone to variance, as the RNA process the virus uses is more prone to mistakes. He added that critical aspects of the virus, like the spike protein involved in a vaccine, are very specific to Covid-19 and unlikely to mutate much.

“Because the vaccines are using antibodies against many different parts of the spike protein, the chances that all of them change, I think, are low,” said Slaoui.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It would be very surprising if it didn't.

How's your cousin doing?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by TLO

How's your cousin doing?

On oxygen full time, but not a vent. Every time they try to take him off, his levels drop.

He seems to be stable, though, and they gave him plasma with antibodies yesterday. That can take a couple of days to make a difference, so hoping he'll turn the corner shortly.

[dirk digler]

Several countries are concerned about this new strain from the UK that they are banning travel to and from the UK. We haven’t yet though.

[Demonpenz]

Originally Posted by Johnny Vegas

The vaccine doesn’t have a ****ing microchip in it. It does have U2’s new album in it though.

This joke if you penned it is a good one dog