***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Go Royals

Got stuck this morning. No third arms or anything crazy yet

No mind control commands from Bill Gates to succumb to the New World Order?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by loochy

No mind control commands from Bill Gates to succumb to the New World Order?

Ever seen Kingsman? They're waiting to activate it all at once.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Nah. As Donger alluded to, I think it's just an altitude thing. There's a reason people get winded at altitude more quickly. But you do get used to it.

Did you ever get it checked before coming to Colorado?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Yea but that doesn't sound nearly as scary as "EMTs directed to let people die in the streets due to no comfort oxygen available!"

There's no need to make up fake quotes.

[Go Royals]

Originally Posted by loochy

No mind control commands from Bill Gates to succumb to the New World Order?

Just a new found love of powerpoint presentations

[bigdaddychieffan]

Originally Posted by SupDock

Why would you give oxygen to a patient whose oxygen level isn't that low?
At this level, a patient wouldn't meet criteria for home oxygen, and wouldn't meet criteria for admission based on oxygen status.

Basically this is saying, "Make sure that patients who you are giving oxygen to actually need oxygen"

People need supplemental oxygen at levels greater than 90. Less than 90 is real low.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Go Royals

Just a new found love of powerpoint presentations

Wow, I need the vaccine then. It would help me appreciate my job.

[BigRedChief]

In Colorado Daface's O2 is fine. Yes, its the altitude. Your body adapts.

95 or greater is normal for non-high altitude areas of the globe.

92 That is consistent for any length of time, you should be concerned especially if your chest feels "heavy" or you labor breathing

88 you qualify for free medicare O2 because you will die without supplemental O2.

[F150]

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/c...?sref=leQ3i2ya Interesting to see how some states are moving along well whilst others seem to have some counties engaged in major ****ery.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by bigdaddychieffan

People need supplemental oxygen at levels greater than 90. Less than 90 is real low.

Generally, no. There are definitely some that do, however.
I'm hesitant to make an all encompassing statement,as the patient's clinical appearance and history makes a big difference.

And again, these are patients who are having continuous pulse oximetry being monitored by clinical staff. This is not someone sitting at home

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https://www.journalofhospitalmedicin...xygen-patients

RECOMMENDATIONSFor most acutely ill patients, do not administer supplemental oxygen when SpO2*>92%.

If supplemental oxygen is used, the SpO2*should not exceed 94%-96%.

For patients with suspected MI, only start supplemental oxygen for SpO2*<90%.

For patients at risk for hypercapnic respiratory failure (eg, COPD patients), target SpO2*of 88%-92%.

Provide supplemental oxygen to normoxemic patients with carbon monoxide poisoning, decompression injury, gas embolism, cluster headache, sickle cell crisis, and pneumothorax.

Review and revise institutional practices and policies that contribute to unnecessary use of supplemental oxygen.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by F150

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/c...?sref=leQ3i2ya Interesting to see how some states are moving along well whilst others seem to have some counties engaged in major ****ery.

The Florida governor threatened to take away the vaccine from counties that don't get their vaccine's into arms quicker. But, offered no support or resources to help the counties get the Vaccines into arms faster.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Donger

Did you ever get it checked before coming to Colorado?

I doubt it. Or at least I never remember them ever sticking the little gizmo on my finger back in the day.

[petegz28]

Congrats, Kansas! You suck the most hole!!

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/c...?sref=leQ3i2ya

[phisherman]

Hey, look on the bright side. At least KS isn't DEAD last in doses given. Hawaii has given less.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Congrats, Kansas! You suck the most hole!!

https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/c...?sref=leQ3i2ya

Well, look who its leader is.