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Old 04-10-2014, 07:37 AM   #1
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Building through the draft only works when those drafted players see the field.
I didn't say they were doing a good job...
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Old 04-10-2014, 07:58 AM   #2
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I didn't say they were doing a good job...
I think what he's hinting at is if you keep plugging holes in free agency and trusting unproven guys, then these young guys may never see the field.
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Old 04-10-2014, 08:07 AM   #3
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Building through the draft only works when those drafted players see the field.
yep. And I expect 4 or 5 players from last years draft to be starting or at least major contributors.
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Old 04-10-2014, 10:58 AM   #4
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I dunno who said it, by I don't agree with the notion that you can't be a Super Bowl contender without a top 5 qb. At all.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:02 AM   #5
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I dunno who said it, by I don't agree with the notion that you can't be a Super Bowl contender without a top 5 qb. At all.
It's not really about whether you can be a contender or not, it's about giving yourself the best shot at winning over the longest period of time.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:07 AM   #6
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Everyone wanted to build through the draft.

Well, we're doing it...
by trading multiple premium draft picks for a 30 year old average quarterback and letting a bunch of guys we drafted walk in free agency?

No, I wouldn't call that "building through the draft".

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They did nothing because they were in such a horrible cap situation that they had to shuffle all their contracts around to barely fit under the cap that year. Cmon, man. They spent a shit load on free agents in the vermeil years. Gave up a shit load of draft picks during that time. And we are going to point to one year where they were quiet?

4 seasons of heavy offseason free agency activity and only one playoff berth.
They gave up a shitload of draft picks during the Vermiel years? A 2 for Surtain and a 4 for Roaf. Who am I missing/forgetting about?

Also please don't embarrass yourself by trying to compare signings like Kendrell Bell and Shawn Barber to possible signings like TJ Ward, Emmanuel Sanders or even guys like Jarius Byrd.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:15 AM   #7
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They gave up a shitload of draft picks during the Vermiel years? A 2 for Surtain and a 4 for Roaf. Who am I missing/forgetting about?
Very first year they didn't have a pick until the 3rd round (everbody remember Eric Downing?) because of the trades for Green and Vermeil himself.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:22 AM   #8
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Very first year they didn't have a pick until the 3rd round (everbody remember Eric Downing?) because of the trades for Green and Vermeil himself.


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Old 04-10-2014, 11:31 AM   #9
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Very first year they didn't have a pick until the 3rd round (everbody remember Eric Downing?) because of the trades for Green and Vermeil himself.
Eric "Road Grader" Downing.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:32 AM   #10
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:19 AM   #11
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by trading multiple premium draft picks for a 30 year old average quarterback and letting a bunch of guys we drafted walk in free agency?

No, I wouldn't call that "building through the draft".



They gave up a shitload of draft picks during the Vermiel years? A 2 for Surtain and a 4 for Roaf. Who am I missing/forgetting about?

Also please don't embarrass yourself by trying to compare signings like Kendrell Bell and Shawn Barber to possible signings like TJ Ward, Emmanuel Sanders or even guys like Jarius Byrd.
Trent green. Dick vermeil.

The chiefs added many quality players through free agency. If you're going to throw Sanders and ward out there, those guys are every bit on the same level as signing Barber and surtain.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:23 AM   #12
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The revisionism on Shawn Barber is hilarious anyway.

The dude was a pretty good player in Washington. He came here and was one of the better players on a terrible defense.

People bagged on Barber but WORSHIPED Mike Maslowski. Go figure.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:24 AM   #13
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You misspelled his name. It was MaSLOWski.
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:30 AM   #14
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Old 04-10-2014, 11:47 AM   #15
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Don't forget everyone's favorite, Nate Hobgood-Chittick.

And where's Mikhael Ricks' mom, somebody put out the bat signal.
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