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Old 06-13-2014, 01:01 PM  
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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.
He's a Charger now.

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Old 06-14-2014, 02:48 PM   #496
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Even after a poor 2013, Brandon Flowers' +35.5 @PFF coverage grade in the last 5 seasons is the 5th-highest of any CB.
This is what get's me. Number's wise he's been a proven commodity as a defensive back and it's not like he's past his prime. He's certainly not any worse than carlos rogers and everybody in the league saw what that did for San Francisco.

At this point I'm convinced the league is ran by knuckle dragging jagoffs with IQ's of 70. I'd almost like to see a baseball manager come into the league and use predictive analytics to create a team, just to watch them destroy some of these slightly reeruned ego maniacs with clipboards that can't grasp basic middle school statistics.
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Old 06-14-2014, 02:48 PM   #497
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Flowers is fairly small, and he has played a pretty physical brand of football since he was drafted.

That has begun to take it's toll on his body.

His prime years are behind him as a result.
Well said. This says it all.
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Old 06-14-2014, 02:52 PM   #498
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Stats don't tell the whole truth. Demps and flowers had significantly different amounts of playing time. Coopers stats look good but he was shit at the end of the year against solid qb play. Flowers was out for most of the dogshit qbs we played. Do tell more....
You're right. Flowers had 866 defensive snaps to Demps' 637. Flowers had a hell of a lot more opportunities to make plays. Over 200 snaps more. And yet Demps was more productive.

Difference between Cooper and Flowers was that Cooper only struggled against the top QBs, Manning and Rivers; which was to be expected given his limited experience with playing the position. Flowers struggled against everybody despite being hailed as a "top 10 corner" by CP.

When the coaching staff pulled Flowers from #1 CB responsibilities after watching him get absolutely destroyed by Dez Bryant, that should have told you something.

Flowers missed a game against the Giants. They only scored 7 points.

Flowers missed the first game against the Raiders. They only scored 7 points.

Flowers played the 2nd game against the Raiders. They scored 31 points.

Flowers missed exactly 1 game against a bad QB. You really think that was the difference between the huge statistical drop between Flowers and virtually everybody else in the secondary?
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Old 06-14-2014, 02:54 PM   #499
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Exactly. There's a lot to criticize and question regarding this offseason but, only a ****ing reerun blames a current GM for the previous GMs mistakes.
How about squandering $30 million under the cap for basically nothing. Well we did get DUI Smith out of the deal.
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Old 06-14-2014, 02:56 PM   #500
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How about squandering $30 million under the cap for basically nothing. Well we did get DUI Smith out of the deal.
Yeah, they squandered it all the way from a 2-14 team to an 11-5 team. Terrible decision making.
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Old 06-14-2014, 02:58 PM   #501
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again, people come, and people go, this is how the NFL works. Flowers was slowing down, they got out early. Someone has to step up and play. Happens to all the teams in the NFL.
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Old 06-14-2014, 02:59 PM   #502
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You don't think he's past his prime?
MAYBE a year past but not washed up. He played hurt last year so a dip in performance would be obvious.
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Old 06-14-2014, 03:01 PM   #503
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i dont see the big deal, its a smart move, better to get out 1 year to early then 1 year to late.
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Old 06-14-2014, 03:02 PM   #504
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MAYBE a year past but not washed up. He played hurt last year so a dip in performance would be obvious.
So you would have been fine with using $10+ mil in cap space on him?
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So you would have been fine with using $10+ mil in cap space on him?
I would've reworked his deal instead of hiring Dunta Robinson. I don't really care that they cut him as much as I'm sick of dumb **** homers saying we are better off with out him. Now we can spend the money on a Smiff 5 year $120 million contract, I'm just ****ing ecstatic.
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MAYBE a year past but not washed up. He played hurt last year so a dip in performance would be obvious.
He's had nagging injuries the past 2 years. And seeing as how we're going to be playing more physical this year, his body likely won't hold up.
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I would've reworked his deal instead of hiring Dunta Robinson. I don't really care that they cut him as much as I'm sick of dumb **** homers saying we are better off with out him. Now we can spend the money on a Smiff 5 year $120 million contract, I'm just ****ing ecstatic.
The thing is that Flowers didn't want to stay here in his new role in the first place. There is no way that he would have agreed to a pay cut.
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I would've reworked his deal instead of hiring Dunta Robinson. I don't really care that they cut him as much as I'm sick of dumb **** homers saying we are better off with out him. Now we can spend the money on a Smiff 5 year $120 million contract, I'm just ****ing ecstatic.
truth is, we dont know what they are going to do with the money just yet! At least wait til they spend the money on him to cry.
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Old 06-14-2014, 03:46 PM   #510
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truth is, we dont know what they are going to do with the money just yet! At least wait til they spend the money on him to cry.
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