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****Official 2015 Missouri Tigers Football Thread****

After seizing the Citrus Bowl from Jerry Kill and the Minnesota Golden Gophers, the Missouri Tigers finish 11-3.

Italics=Likely sign and place
Bold=JUCO recruit

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2016 Class:

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Schedule:

9/5: SEMO
9/12 @Ark St.
9/19: UConn
9/26: @Kentucky
10/3: South Carolina
10/10: Florida
10/17 @ Georgia
10/24: @ Vandy
10/31: Bye
11/5 (Thu): Mississippi State
11/14: BYU (@ Arrowhead)
11/21: Tennessee
11/28: @Arkansas

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Old 06-10-2015, 12:05 PM   #496
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Love my royals, but the kid should go to mizzou.
If the Royals offer him 500k, he actually should sign with them. That's the better long-term move unless he thinks his pro future is much better in football than baseball.
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:28 PM   #497
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If the Royals offer him 500k, he actually should sign with them. That's the better long-term move unless he thinks his pro future is much better in football than baseball.
What is the signing bonus for a typical 15th rounder? 500K sounds way high.
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:29 PM   #498
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Love my royals, but the kid should go to mizzou.
As of right now, I don't think there's any risk of him leaving Mizzou, unless a scenario like Duncan's takes place.
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Old 06-10-2015, 12:42 PM   #499
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What is the signing bonus for a typical 15th rounder? 500K sounds way high.
It's 100K, but the draft works like this now:

Rounds 1-10: Every pick has a slot value. Each team's picks in this round are totaled up to form a bonus pool.
Round 11-40: Each pick has a max signing value of $100k. Anything over that signing bonus must be counted as part of the team's bonus pool.

If you do not sign a player in rounds 1-10, you lose that slot's money from your bonus pool. So, basically, teams do not draft tough signs in the first 10 rounds. They wait until rounds 11-40 and then steal money from the pool to sign those kids.

Each of the Royals 5-10 picks are guys who can likely be signed for underslot value. It's possible KC could free up 750k-1,000,000 of pool money (including round 2 pick Josh Staumont, who likely signs for about 1/2 of slot).

They'll need some of that to sign Nolan Watson, the comp. pick for Shields. But they could end up with enough left over to make either Doherty or 11th round pick Ben Johnson (UT, jr.) an offer that convinces them to sign.
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Old 06-11-2015, 01:07 PM   #500
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3* offensive guard Dylan Powell commits to the Purdue. He was a huge Mizzou fan and really wanted to be a Tiger. He never got an offer, though.
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It's 100K, but the draft works like this now:

Rounds 1-10: Every pick has a slot value. Each team's picks in this round are totaled up to form a bonus pool.
Round 11-40: Each pick has a max signing value of $100k. Anything over that signing bonus must be counted as part of the team's bonus pool.

If you do not sign a player in rounds 1-10, you lose that slot's money from your bonus pool. So, basically, teams do not draft tough signs in the first 10 rounds. They wait until rounds 11-40 and then steal money from the pool to sign those kids.

Each of the Royals 5-10 picks are guys who can likely be signed for underslot value. It's possible KC could free up 750k-1,000,000 of pool money (including round 2 pick Josh Staumont, who likely signs for about 1/2 of slot).

They'll need some of that to sign Nolan Watson, the comp. pick for Shields. But they could end up with enough left over to make either Doherty or 11th round pick Ben Johnson (UT, jr.) an offer that convinces them to sign.
The Cards zagged the trend this year.

They took guys in 9 and 10 that have been obvious 11th round 'tough sign' guys in years past. The thought process, as I see it anyway, is pretty clever. I think they knew that they weren't going to get a stab at those guys in the 11th picking at the back of the round, especially not with the Astros being so aggressive in how they target those rounds. They got a good Comp! pick and commensurate salary slot, as well as the extra 3rd rounder from losing Megill last year so the Cards have a little money to play with in the top 10, not to mention permission from ownership to pay the tax on the 5% overage that doesn't cost them draft picks.

So they took those guys hoping that they'd maybe get one of them locked up (I'm thinking they like Kep Brown a lot).

It's bold and in my mind a pretty sharp strategy.
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The Cards zagged the trend this year.

They took guys in 9 and 10 that have been obvious 11th round 'tough sign' guys in years past. The thought process, as I see it anyway, is pretty clever. I think they knew that they weren't going to get a stab at those guys in the 11th picking at the back of the round, especially not with the Astros being so aggressive in how they target those rounds. They got a good Comp! pick and commensurate salary slot, as well as the extra 3rd rounder from losing Megill last year so the Cards have a little money to play with in the top 10, not to mention permission from ownership to pay the tax on the 5% overage that doesn't cost them draft picks.

So they took those guys hoping that they'd maybe get one of them locked up (I'm thinking they like Kep Brown a lot).

It's bold and in my mind a pretty sharp strategy.
lolz, trying for the royals thread? intriguing nonetheless
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****Official 2015 Missouri Tigers Football Thread****

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The run of commitments continues for the Mizzou football class of 2016.

Tonight the Tigers added Nashville (Ill.) offensive tackle Royce Newman he confirmed with PowerMizzou.

The class total is now 11 with seven of those commitments happening since Friday, June 5.

Newman recently camped with Mizzou for three days and performed well enough to earn an offer from Gary Pinkel and his coaches.

The 6-foot-7, 280 pound prospect has been on the Tigers radar for a while having attended multiple events in Columbia in the last several months.
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Another player where we're the best offer, not exactly a recruiting win.

Everybody can say Pinkel and the coaches are these great coaches who coach guys up and that stars don't matter, but with the current type of recruits we're getting we're going to keep getting to the championship game and will continue to get stomped by the likes of Auburn and Alabama (or Texas and Oklahoma when we were in the Big 12).

I also don't understand why, in what I believe is supposed to be a smaller class this year, we're already filling it up with a bunch of really average players.
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Another player where we're the best offer, not exactly a recruiting win.

Everybody can say Pinkel and the coaches are these great coaches who coach guys up and that stars don't matter, but with the current type of recruits we're getting we're going to keep getting to the championship game and will continue to get stomped by the likes of Auburn and Alabama (or Texas and Oklahoma when we were in the Big 12).

I also don't understand why, in what I believe is supposed to be a smaller class this year, we're already filling it up with a bunch of really average players.
I understand the strategy from this point: the state has a dearth of high-level talent this year. Thus, if you can secure a solid-ish class early, you can focus more resources on the guys who would be better gets.

Basically, "a bird in hand" philosophy. If you go all-in on guys that are lower percentage plays, then you run the risk of having a Kim Anderson recruiting class.
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Certainly an under-the-radar type with a projectable frame.
Under-the-radar types are fine, but when just about the entire class so far is that type it's really puzzling to say the least.

I just don't think this recruiting strategy is going to get it done in the SEC.

Maybe it's because the in-state talent sucks this year? Either way, we can't just rely on in-state talent so we have to be able to pull higher end talent from elsewhere.
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Another player where we're the best offer, not exactly a recruiting win.

Everybody can say Pinkel and the coaches are these great coaches who coach guys up and that stars don't matter, but with the current type of recruits we're getting we're going to keep getting to the championship game and will continue to get stomped by the likes of Auburn and Alabama (or Texas and Oklahoma when we were in the Big 12).

I also don't understand why, in what I believe is supposed to be a smaller class this year, we're already filling it up with a bunch of really average players.
Why do you think this guy is average? Honest question. A guy I know and trust was raving about him in camp. I don't understand why Mizzou fan isn't thrilled with this commit. I mean, if you do nothing else, watch his film.
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