Chiefs Alex Smith was not the problem Sunday, sorry haters. - Page 34

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 09:10 PM

Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings:
Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9
Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7

https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/

"Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again

This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%).

Against the Bucs...
Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating
Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating
Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating
Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-24-2016, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

I'd take both of them and pretty much every other teams QB over Smith not named the Bears, Jets or Browns

Still upset about not getting Geno?

rico · 11-24-2016, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

I'd take both of them and pretty much every other teams QB over Smith not named the Bears, Jets or Browns

I am with you on that...I probably wouldn't take Tannehill either...my reason for that is kinda dumb though...I just can't stand the guy.

mcaj22 · 11-24-2016, 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Still upset about not getting Geno?

yea, kinda.

upset about not getting Carr, Cousins, Wilson, Matt Ryan, anyone really. Have to settle for the Alex Smiths, Jon Baldwins, Ryan Sims and Donald Stephensons of the world I guess.

rico · 11-24-2016, 07:01 PM

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Pretty good thread stats...It's not quite "Who Would Win in a Fight Between Mike Tyson and Bruce Lee?" successful yet, though.

mcaj22 · 11-24-2016, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rico

I am with you on that...I probably wouldn't take Tannehill either...my reason for that is kinda dumb though...I just can't stand the guy.

the young QBs are just progressing at a much faster rate. I know it was just last year a lot of people still would have taken Smith over Winston or Mariota but now it's not even close, especially with Smith "regressing" or doing his best impression of a regress.

**RealSNR** · 11-24-2016, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Scum like you need to disappear off CP

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rico · 11-24-2016, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

the young QBs are just progressing at a much faster rate. I know it was just last year a lot of people still would have taken Smith over Winston or Mariota but now it's not even close, especially with Smith "regressing" or doing his best impression of a regress.

Mariota has just been a straight up beast these past few weeks. Wouldn't it be nice?

mcaj22 · 11-24-2016, 07:08 PM

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Mariota has just been a straight up beast these past few weeks. Wouldn't it be nice?

we would win a Super Bowl with a guy like him, no doubt in my mind.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 11-24-2016, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

I'll suck the dick of my cousin if my uncle isn't available.

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TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-24-2016, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

yea, kinda.

upset about not getting Carr, Cousins, Wilson, Matt Ryan, anyone really. Have to settle for the Alex Smiths, Jon Baldwins, Ryan Sims and Donald Stephensons of the world I guess.

Who were you hyping a year ago when we were 1-5? Was it murray or daniel?

mcaj22 · 11-24-2016, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Who were you hyping a year ago when we were 1-5? Was it murray or daniel?

skipped right over Daniel and was all for any young QB so Murray or Bray. Didn't matter if they busted. It really still doesn't. I will always cheer for the unknown player to get a chance when I know the capped ceiling of the 11 year veteran.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-24-2016, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

skipped right over Daniel and was all for any young QB so Murray or Bray. Didn't matter if they busted. It really still doesn't. I will always cheer for the unknown player to get a chance when I know the capped ceiling of the 11 year veteran.

So basically you wanted to risk the success of this team on an unproven product...there was nothing that Murray showed in college that was even remotely close to RW or Dak. Nothing.

mcaj22 · 11-24-2016, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

So basically you wanted to risk the success of this team on an unproven product...there was nothing that Murray showed in college that was even remotely close to RW or Dak. Nothing.

if you're asking me would I risk one 10-6 season and a wild card win and divisional round exit to play an unknown late round guy that could do what Dak Prescott is currently doing? The answer is yes, every time. The long term security is worth it.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 11-24-2016, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

if you're asking me would I risk one 10-6 season and a wild card win and divisional round exit to play an unknown late round guy that could do what Dak Prescott is currently doing? The answer is yes, every time. The long term security is worth it.

You realize we went into Foxboro last year without 4 of our top five players (Ware/Charles/Maclin/Houston), right? And we lost by one score. To even imply that we weren't SB contenders last year with a healthy squad is just flat out ignorant. The Broncos won the lombardi and we essentially dominated them in both regular season games

Reerun_KC · 11-24-2016, 08:50 PM

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TigeRRUppeRRcut Banned Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: 19th Hole Casino cash: $10004725	Alex Smith is a solid QB, sorry haters. Bucs win 5th game in a row. Despite the common thought here that Alex Smith held down the team Sunday, Smith's overall production to the team yesterday graded out very positive in 3 rankings: Smith: QBR 94.1, QB rating 99, PFF 71.9 Winston: QBR 83.6, QB rating 97, PFF 50.7 https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro...-for-bucs-win/ "Smith gained positive expected points (EPA) on 77 percent of his plays on Sunday, the second-highest rate for a QB in a game this season (Dak Prescott, 83 percent versus Chicago in Week 3). Put simply, more than three-fourths of his plays contributed to the team’s scoring margin, given the context and situation." - http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...s-excels-again This is why we should use our brains instead of repeating the garbage fed to us by Mellinger and Teicher. If Smith only had 34 plays yesterday to do something with the ball and earns both a rushing and passing TD, a FG, to 1 INT (first red zone interception since 2013) and completes an outstanding 77% of passes ... we should probably focus on the real problem yesterday: The Defense. Who didn't show up and allowed Winston/Martin to hold the ball for 35 minutes, earn 24 first downs, and convert 68% of 3rd downs (league average is 40%). Against the Bucs... Alex Smith: 1 INT, 99 QB rating Philip Rivers: 2 INTs, 80 QB rating Russell Wilson: 2 INTs, 39 QB rating Drew Brees: 3 INTs, 49 QB rating Last edited by TigeRRUppeRRcut; 12-11-2016 at 09:10 PM..
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