***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Probably depends on what you include in "distribution." I don't think it's been an issue getting it to the states, but from there it's been a range of "going great" in some areas to "complete chaos" in others. I'm not sure what they're planning, but hypothetically if they could actually get the national guard infrastructure in place to help with local distribution and administration, it could help. Maybe.

The biggest issue with getting shots in arms is trust. People need to be shown it's safe and trust the process of it.

How do you think that would go if there are tents with soldiers in gas mask giving shots in arms?

It needs to go thru dr's and pharmacists who do this regularly and who regularly interact with patients.

[SupDock]

Where I live, people are having a very difficult time getting scheduled. Imagine people aged 75 and older needing to check a website regularly to get scheduling information.

Most vaccine centers near me are completely booked.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Seems weird since everyone I know in healthcare in 3 states has gotten the vaccine and they are moving to 1B tier 3 in Missouri as soon as next week.

We are telling employees over 65 and with high risk factors to contact physicians immediately to schedule vaccinations. We don't have hardly any older employees but quite a few with type 2 diabetes. They made the BMI 40 and I just looked that up we don't have too many of those.

I work for a healthcare and vaccinator company here in MO and we got the first initial Pfizer doses and I can tell you not every healthcare worker is getting one currently for a couple of reasons (not enough doses or they don't want it).

We are signing up people now and will be doing more clinics in the next couple of weeks.

Also we were told for 1B that MO is doing this by the honor system so if anyone wants one sign up with your local vaccinators.

As far as the no plan, the Feds didn't have a plan but we do now it sounds like.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by O.city

The biggest issue with getting shots in arms is trust. People need to be shown it's safe and trust the process of it.

How do you think that would go if there are tents with soldiers in gas mask giving shots in arms?

It needs to go thru dr's and pharmacists who do this regularly and who regularly interact with patients.

I suppose, but out here the waiting list is hundreds of thousands of people long. We just don't have enough healthcare workers to handle it. Our governor is asking veterinarians and dental workers to help out because we just don't have the capacity to do it. We have one county that is giving them out in a car wash drive through to try and speed it up as much as possible.

Down the road once we've caught up? Sure. Some people will feel more comfortable in the traditional routes. But right now? Speed is more important than anything.

[Donger]

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...eparedness.pdf

Plan released for review.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

How do you think that would go if there are tents with soldiers in gas mask giving shots in arms?

That would be awesome.

[KCUnited]

The National Guard had already been assisting here but were deployed to staff the inauguration in both DC and the state capital. They're expected to be redeployed to testing sites throughout the state in the following days.

[tooge]

Originally Posted by petegz28

Well, I have talked with several who have had Moderna and several more who have had Pfizer. You are the only one I know who had a "sore arm" after Pfizer. I mean mine was a touch tender about 12 hours later but never amounted to what I would call sore. I just took 2 advil before I went to bed since I am a side sleeper.

I've asked a ton of people and to this point the only difference I've seen between Moderna and Pfizer is that the Phizer guys dicks got bigger and fatter while the Moderna guys got slightly smaller. I think Kansas got Moderna.

[tooge]

Originally Posted by Donger

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...eparedness.pdf

Plan released for review.

Simply enough. Give the vaccines that Trump had made with operation light speed into peoples arms as fast as possible using platforms like Amazon who will now agree to do so.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Donger

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...eparedness.pdf

Plan released for review.

I like the sound of this.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by O.city

The biggest issue with getting shots in arms is trust. People need to be shown it's safe and trust the process of it.

How do you think that would go if there are tents with soldiers in gas mask giving shots in arms?

It needs to go thru dr's and pharmacists who do this regularly and who regularly interact with patients.

I don't care who is giving the shot. There needs to be as many injections as possible and fast as possible.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by tooge

Simply enough. Give the vaccines that Trump had made with operation light speed into peoples arms as fast as possible using platforms like Amazon who will now agree to do so.

I'm waiting for Operation Folded Space, myself.

[Donger]

Dr. Fauci gave a briefing on the existing vaccines and the mutations regarding efficacy.

Can that be posted?

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Donger

Dr. Fauci gave a briefing on the existing vaccines and the mutations regarding efficacy.

Can that be posted?

Don't see why not. As long as we're sticking to discussion about facts and not about our opinions of people, it's fine.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Donger

Dr. Fauci gave a briefing on the existing vaccines and the mutations regarding efficacy.

Can that be posted?

Please do post. I'd be interested in hearing what he has to say.