***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by candyman

Didn't someone say earlier in this thread chloroquine phosphate was only being used as an anti-inflammatory, not as a potential cure? This is why I dont believe anything I read...pretty much anywhere.

Hydroxychloroquine is normally used as a DMARD for rheumatoid arthritis. It reduces cytokine production (inflammation), which reduces autoimmune destruction of the joints.

If the antiautophagy aspects of the drug result in less cell destruction (and potentially viral release from infected cells--I'm speculating here) then you might reduce the circulating viral load.

The exact mechanism of chloroquine/hydroxycholoroquine is still somewhat unknown.

Chloroquine has never been used as an antiviral. From its known mechanism, it may help someone ride out the storm, but some heretofore unknown MOA is possible, but unlikely

[Donger]

First participant in coronavirus vaccine trial given dose

A novel coronavirus vaccine trial in the US has now given a dose to its first participant, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases announced Monday.

[Fish]

[Hammock Parties]

The gas station down the street has no gas until April 2.

[jjjayb]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

thats without widespread testing too.

Great. When they do widespread testing they'll see there are a shit ton more cases that aren't being counted. That will be good news because it will lower the mortality rate. The mortality rate looks artificially high because you're more apt to test people that are critically sick which will skew the numbers. When it's all said and done the mortality rate will be much lower than what we think it is now.

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The gas station down the street has no gas until April 2.

The ****? That's a bloody nuisance.

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Fish

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

First participant in coronavirus vaccine trial given dose

A novel coronavirus vaccine trial in the US has now given a dose to its first participant, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases announced Monday.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

The ****? That's a bloody nuisance.

Technically they're not "out of gas" but the pump area is all "under construction."

But I've lived in this area for years and can't remember seeing that gas station like this.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by Fish

Heh, already looked into that. I buy a few rolls of those really cheap PTs every winter in preparation for the upcoming fpring fishing trips I usually take, and instead of bringing rolls of TP and rolls of PT, it's just more convenient to bring a roll of PT and cut the thing in half; one roll for PT, and one for your butt.

I looked to be sure, but yeah, I've got 5 rolls of cheap PT in the garage. Maybe I'll sell them on Ebay for $100/each . . .

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Hydroxychloroquine is normally used as a DMARD for rheumatoid arthritis. It reduces cytokine production (inflammation), which reduces autoimmune destruction of the joints.

If the antiautophagy aspects of the drug result in less cell destruction (and potentially viral release from infected cells--I'm speculating here) then you might reduce the circulating viral load.

The exact mechanism of chloroquine/hydroxycholoroquine is still somewhat unknown.

Chloroquine has never been used as an antiviral. From its known mechanism, it may help someone ride out the storm, but some heretofore unknown MOA is possible, but unlikely

This sounds hopeful and both of these drugs are dirt cheap and in high supply supposedly.

Australian researchers on Monday claimed to have found two drugs — an HIV and an anti-malaria medicines — to treat novel coronavirus which has claimed five lives and infected over 350 others in the country.

University of Queensland Centre for Clinical Research Director David Paterson told news.com.au that the two drugs, which were used in test tubes, stopped coronavirus in its tracks and a clinical trial on humans was ready to begin.

One of the two medications is an HIV drug, and the other is an anti-malaria drug called chloroquine.

Paterson said one of the medications had been administered to some of the first few COVID-19 patients in Australia, and that they had completely recovered after all signs of the virus "disappeared". "It's a potentially effective treatment. Patients would end up with no viable coronavirus in their system at all after the end of therapy," said Paterson, an infectious disease physician at the Royal Brisbane and Women's Hospital.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by Fish

Does the recipe come with a Plumber?

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by Donger

First participant in coronavirus vaccine trial given dose

A novel coronavirus vaccine trial in the US has now given a dose to its first participant, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases announced Monday.

MASH episode. Everyone has the flu.

Hawk and Margaret get a vaccine

Hawkeye says "You know the shot for the flu--it works. I got it"

[displacedinMN]

Sorry. Very political. But give it a rest people. More things to worry about.

the "Chinese Virus"??? Are you ****ing kidding me? https://t.co/8kPDx8QE3B

— Kendall Rae�� (@KendallRaeOnYT) March 16, 2020

[dirk digler]

I noticed half the deaths are from Washington, probably from that nursing home.