***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I'm not saying there is.

I'm just passing along info.

I will definitely be filling up later.

You're a dick.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The anti-HIV med I know they've tried is Kaletra, which is a combination of a protease inhibitor (lopinavir) and a booster (ritonavir). It is not cheap in the US, but the PEPFAR program has demonstrated how drugs can be provided at lower cost in times of increased need.

Hydroxychloroquine is actually more potent than chloroquine. It is relatively inexpensive and one of the more commonly-prescribed drugs in the US.

Also, clearing it in the tube isn't the same as in vivo. Additionally, they mentioned that people were cleared of the virus when they recovered, not that the drugs themselves actually cleared the virus. I would urge caution.

Apparently the Chinese are\did start using chloroquine to treat their patients.

If I get it I will be their guinea pig.

Chloroquine

Chloroquine is a drug that’s used to fight malaria and autoimmune diseases. It’s been in use for more than 70 years and is considered safe.

Researchers have discovered that this drug is effective at fighting the SARS-CoV-2 virus in studies done in test tubes.

At least 10 clinical trials are currently looking at the potential use of chloroquine as an option for combating the novel coronavirus.


Lopinavir and ritonavir

Lopinavir and ritonavir are sold under the name Kaletra and are designed to treat HIV.

In South Korea, a 54-year-old man was given a combination of these two drugs and had a significant reduction his levels of the coronavirus.

According to the World Health Organization (WHO), there could be benefits to using Kaletra in combination with other drugs.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

You're a dick.

Cool your heels.

[Donger]

Has anyone else switched from going to the grocery store to getting delivery? I placed an order on Saturday, and threw in some TP just to see if I could get it for my neighbor, because she's almost out. They just brought everything I wanted.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

something up

KC is an authoritarian, socialist shithole. I’m sorry.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Cool your heels.

It's clear that you're trying to have some self-fun, but this isn't the time. Again, you're being a dick.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I'm not saying there is.

I'm just passing along info.

I will definitely be filling up later.

This is how the toilet paper shit got started. Stop it now.

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

1 million test available as of now.

Do you have a link? Pence promised that 2 weeks ago. I'd like to see the source before I believe it.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Donger

Has anyone else switched from going to the grocery store to getting delivery? I placed an order on Saturday, and threw in some TP just to see if I could get it for my neighbor, because she's almost out. They just brought everything I wanted.

No poor chap. I live less than 2 miles from 2 stores. 1 was out of eggs chicken and TP. The other had eggs.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

No poor chap. I live less than 2 miles from 2 stores. 1 was out of eggs chicken and TP. The other had eggs.

I have three within the same distance. I wanted to try because if it works, and more people do it, it will lessen the panic-buying and the strain on the supply chain.

[kcxiv]

My dad had a doctors appointment today cause he had surgery 3 weeks ago, and they made him wear a mask as soon as he left his house til he got home. HIs appointment was an hour away at the VA hospital. They werent ****ing around, told him not to go anywher at all unless its to the doctors. He's diabetic!

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

something up

I topped off this morning. Gonna top off all my cars, because reasons.

Gonna fill up my Propane tanks too.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by Donger

Has anyone else switched from going to the grocery store to getting delivery? I placed an order on Saturday, and threw in some TP just to see if I could get it for my neighbor, because she's almost out. They just brought everything I wanted.

Ordered nearly $100 from Target on Sat, they delivered ~$40 of the order. Seems hit our miss.

[notorious]

You guys in the city take care of yourselves.

We are good to go out here in the middle of nowhere.

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Do you have a link? Pence promised that 2 weeks ago. I'd like to see the source before I believe it.

You should know better than to pay attention to the clueless.