***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

As a marketing professional this marketing sucks.

Agreed. I just don't get it. Give people hope and a reason to get the vaccine.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

As a marketing professional this marketing sucks.

Once you’ve gotten any COVID-19 vaccine, you still need to wear a mask, get tested, and watch your distance. Isolate if you have tested positive/have symptoms, and quarantine if you are a close contact or have traveled to another state or country. Visit https://t.co/74RKEJYTOU. pic.twitter.com/czv1jYpbqa

— Rhode Island Department of Health (@RIHEALTH) February 23, 2021

If you didn't know better you would think they were trying to discourage people from getting vaccinated. This shit makes no sense no matter how you try to spin it otherwise.

Its like telling your kids to do their homework but they are still grounded anyway.

[Chiefnj2]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Effectiveness rates are a measure of how well they PREVENT the outcome, not a measure of how many people will experience the outcome with the vaccine. It becomes clear that your interpretation is wrong if you use the lower effectiveness of the J&J vaccine. If it prevents 70% of infections (or whatever their final number is), does that mean that 30% of people will get it with the vaccine when non vaccinated infection rates are much lower than that? Obviously not.

In this case, the vaccine drops chances of death overall by 100x compared to those who aren't vaccinated. You can't really compare it to a CFR (since that assumes people are infected in the first place), but it's kind like dropping the CFR to 0.019%.

I’m not sure that is correct.


“According to the same report, the vaccine is up to 99.2 percent effective in preventing serious illness. 98.9 percent of patients followed did not need to be hospitalized.

The epidemiology unit at the Health Ministry collects data at two points: one week after the second dose and a week after that. According to the data, after one week, the vaccine is 91.9 percent effective in preventing the illness altogether. After two weeks, it jumps to 95.8 percent.”

It doesn’t seem to compare the numbers to non-vaccinated individuals.

[O.city]

Go get the vaccine and give it time to do what it does. Then go back to normal life.

There's your PR.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by O.city

Go get the vaccine and give it time to do what it does. Then go back to normal life.

There's your PR.

Too simple. We need a more complex formula that varys from state to state.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by O.city

Go get the vaccine and give it time to do what it does. Then go back to normal life.

There's your PR.

Bingo! We have a winner.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Once you’ve gotten any COVID-19 vaccine, you still need to wear a mask,

nope

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

get tested,

nope

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

and watch your distance.

nope

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Isolate if you have tested positive/have symptoms

nope

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

, and quarantine if you are a close contact

nope

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

or have traveled to another state or country.

nope

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

Visit https://t.co/74RKEJYTOU. pic.twitter.com/czv1jYpbqa
— Rhode Island Department of Health (@RIHEALTH) February 23, 2021

FU. I will most assuredly not be visiting Rhode Island.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

I’m not sure that is correct.


“According to the same report, the vaccine is up to 99.2 percent effective in preventing serious illness. 98.9 percent of patients followed did not need to be hospitalized.

The epidemiology unit at the Health Ministry collects data at two points: one week after the second dose and a week after that. According to the data, after one week, the vaccine is 91.9 percent effective in preventing the illness altogether. After two weeks, it jumps to 95.8 percent.”

It doesn’t seem to compare the numbers to non-vaccinated individuals.

That's the definition of effectiveness rates.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by loochy

nopenopenopenopenopenope

FU. I will most assuredly not be visiting Rhode Island.

You and all the others better get used to Yes to all of those at least depending on where you work and or live.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

You and all the others better get used to Yes to all of those at least depending on where you work and or live.

nope

[louie aguiar]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

You and all the others better get used to Yes to all of those at least depending on where you work and or live.

why?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

You and all the others better get used to Yes to all of those at least depending on where you work and or live.

Then you might want to get used to the idea that vaccinations rates wont be nearly as high as they should be.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by louie aguiar

why?

Yeah. I'm pretty much out on all those these days. Quit wearing a mask as well and nobody says shit. See more and more doing the same.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Yeah. I'm pretty much out on all those these days. Quit wearing a mask as well and nobody says shit. See more and more doing the same.

yeah but the rules!




and literally killing people literally!

[Chief Roundup]

Because the federal government and health officials think that is what needs to happen. Just like now and up to this point in time some states have been following others are doing what they think is right. It will be no different going forward.