***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

This shit is going to destroy this country at some point.

Originally Posted by Fish

LOL, no shit. Take a visit to any small town across the midwest. The overwhelming majority are taking zero precautions. It's a drastic difference compared to the cities.

Yea, that's the real issue with this country. Its obvious looking at the data and death rates per capita by state and region.

[notorious]

Now for some positive news:

Our local community has made it fine through the school year (physically open), and we are about to finish basketball season with a limited amount of fans allowed to attend.

Many parents grumbled about having to wear masks, but in the end they rallied and did what it took to keep kids in school, even if they don't agree.

This goes for the entire area of small, rural schools. Boy are we doing things wrong!

I was shocked to hear a lot of the country still hasn't had school. WTF is going on in those areas?

[KC_Lee]

Originally Posted by notorious

Now for some positive news:

Our local community has made it fine through the school year (physically open), and we are about to finish basketball season with a limited amount of fans allowed to attend.

Many parents grumbled about having to wear masks, but in the end they rallied and did what it took to keep kids in school, even if they don't agree.

This goes for the entire area of small, rural schools. Boy are we doing things wrong!

I was shocked to hear a lot of the country still hasn't had school. WTF is going on in those areas?

You'll have to go to the DC forum to get an answer to that question.

[RunKC]

So we have hit our 50 millionth vaccine shot. That’s not terrible for our 2nd month rolling this out.

Considering the Pfizer 1st shot is 62% effective and Moderna having 92% after the first shot, that’s great news.

Now with J&J about to roll out, we should be curb stomping this bitch by the start of summer.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by RunKC

So we have hit our 50 millionth vaccine shot. That’s not terrible for our 2nd month rolling this out.

Considering the Pfizer 1st shot is 62% effective and Moderna having 92% after the first shot, that’s great news.

Now with J&J about to roll out, we should be curb stomping this bitch by the start of summer.

There's real world data that suggests the 1st Pfizer dose is actually closer to 90% effective 14-21 days after the first shot.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by notorious

Now for some positive news:

Our local community has made it fine through the school year (physically open), and we are about to finish basketball season with a limited amount of fans allowed to attend.

Many parents grumbled about having to wear masks, but in the end they rallied and did what it took to keep kids in school, even if they don't agree.

This goes for the entire area of small, rural schools. Boy are we doing things wrong!

I was shocked to hear a lot of the country still hasn't had school. WTF is going on in those areas?

Originally Posted by suzzer99

This shit is going to destroy this country at some point.

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[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Yeah, for sure. But I dont think there are a ton of anti vaxxers. A lot are just ambivalent. If it means getting kids back into schools, church, getting their neighbors restaurant going again, etc... I don't think you're selling a lot of people in these areas that they need it, but you can probably sell plenty of them on just doing it to get it over with.

I live in a rural area. Churches and schools are already open and have been for months. We haven't had any significant outbreaks since early November now.

People are just plain sick of it honestly.

And now we've got a vaccine issue that's pissing people off - reports of clinic staff taking doses home and giving them to family members behind the scenes. It's not a rumor either, I know at least one family member now that got the shot at home, under the table.

[ptlyon]

Why not in a chair Parker?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by ptlyon

Why not in a chair Parker?

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

I live in a rural area. Churches and schools are already open and have been for months. We haven't had any significant outbreaks since early November now.

People are just plain sick of it honestly.

And now we've got a vaccine issue that's pissing people off - reports of clinic staff taking doses home and giving them to family members behind the scenes. It's not a rumor either, I know at least one family member now that got the shot at home, under the table.

Yeah, I've seen plenty of that from the people I've grown up with. There are pure anti vaxxers and there are people who hate all the vaccine stuff because they think this whole thing is overblown. Very big difference. I know plenty of people who rant about masks but will take the vaccine. Not because they worry about their own safety or even care too much if the vaccine works. But because for a small inconvenience they can just get this whole thing over with. It's not like masks where you make this decision to wear or not wear every single day. For vaccines, you just get over it once and use that as an excuse to give even less of a shit about all this.

[notorious]

So, when you've had the vaccine can you go maskless?

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by notorious

So, when you've had the vaccine can you go maskless?

No not even after the 28 days following the 2cd shot.

[R Clark]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

No not even after the 28 days following the 2cd shot.

Why is this?

[Discuss Thrower]

Originally Posted by R Clark

Why is this?

Because it doesn't stop transmission.

[O.city]

It does but they apparently need thousands of studies to confirm