***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[loochy]

Originally Posted by displacedinMN

Like those pussies that get a vasectomy and think they need four days off work to watch basketball

heh yeah. Assholes like that had me all scared about my vasectomy. It was very easy and not painful. No sudden movements or jumping for a few days, but normal, everyday activities were just fine starting the day after.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

24 hours post injection, Moderna shot 2.

Lil bit of neck stiffness but could be how i laid on a pillow. injection site little tender. No other issues. Wife had a headache but that may be due to me being around

Crazy how fast the injection rate is growing across the country. Arrowhead will be a site for mass injections next week. Lady at the injection site we went to said they may used Dollar Generals to get into the small rural towns.

Hey did you know that one time a nursing home patient in Sweden died after getting a vaccine? TRUE STORY

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by loochy

heh yeah. Assholes like that had me all scared about my vasectomy. It was very easy and not painful. No sudden movements or jumping for a few days, but normal, everyday activities were just fine starting the day after.

Some men are just weak. My friend limped around all week like he had broken a leg.

I lifted a few things and rode in a boat the next day.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by loochy

heh yeah. Assholes like that had me all scared about my vasectomy. It was very easy and not painful. No sudden movements or jumping for a few days, but normal, everyday activities were just fine starting the day after.

If I can't make sudden movements how am I supposed to evade my enemies?

[loochy]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

If I can't make sudden movements how am I supposed to evade my enemies?

Who needs evasion with guns like these?

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by loochy

Hey did you know that one time a nursing home patient in Sweden died after getting a vaccine? TRUE STORY

Nah, I think it was actually the vasectomy that killed him...

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by loochy

heh yeah. Assholes like that had me all scared about my vasectomy. It was very easy and not painful. No sudden movements or jumping for a few days, but normal, everyday activities were just fine starting the day after.

I had no problems after my vasectomy when it came to things life golfing , fishing etc but it only gave me issue when it came to dishes, laundry, honey do list items.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by TLO

Italy is going on lockdown again.

Europe is doing god awful in terms of vaccinating

[suzzer99]

Has to be some advantage to the US paying 10x more for prescription drugs than Canada and Europe.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by O.city

Europe is doing god awful in terms of vaccinating

Most of their problems is because they were too slow and bureaucratic signing initial contracts and so ended up behind other rich countries in line for available vaccines.

For the most part they have used all the vaccines they have gotten their hands on.

And perhaps relying too much on the Astra vaccine instead of hedging their bets more.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Has to be some advantage to the US paying 10x more for prescription drugs than Canada and Europe.

No, not really.

[AJKCFAN]

Got vaccinated via Pfizer

First vaccination - no effects whatsoever.

Second vaccination was just the other day. No effects at first and then got a sore arm at point of injection beginning later that evening and it lasted for about a day.

No issues at all now. Very glad and thankful to be done and looking forward to things becoming more normal soon....

[suzzer99]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

No, not really.

Well we do seem to be at the front of the line for vaccines.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Well we do seem to be at the front of the line for vaccines.

We paid upfront with a guarantee of so many doses. Other countries did not. those have nothing to do with what you said.

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

We paid upfront with a guarantee of so many doses. Other countries did not. those have nothing to do with what you said.

Yep. Team USA did a good job of quickly paying up front to guarantee doses whether they worked or not. The EU didn't want to be on the hook if the vaccines didn't work out and that ended up costing them.

So good job team USA on that front.

Now given that those doses actually had to go into arms to do any good and that was clear six months ahead of time, team USA could have done a better job preparing for that.

But things are ramping up.