***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[O.city]

Brazil is getting decimated and they have the p1 variant spreading

Not good

[loochy]

Originally Posted by philfree

Any news on combining the vaccines?

My wife had the first shot but she's put off getting the second. She received the Moderna so she's supposed to be over 80% protected. Kind of makes the 2nd shot seem silly. I had the virus so I'm in no hurry to sign up but when I do, if I do I'm going to wait for the J&J single shot. I'm wondering since the second shot seems to be the one that causes the most side effects it my be better for her to get the J&J. Maybe the two together could have the best results?

No, she should get the second shot. Is she really that afraid of a small chance of having a fever for a day? Really?

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by philfree

Any news on combining the vaccines?



My wife had the first shot but she's put off getting the second. She received the Moderna so she's supposed to be over 80% protected. Kind of makes the 2nd shot seem silly. I had the virus so I'm in no hurry to sign up but when I do, if I do I'm going to wait for the J&J single shot. I'm wondering since the second shot seems to be the one that causes the most side effects it my be better for her to get the J&J. Maybe the two together could have the best results?

Get the 2nd shot. Don't look back.

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by suzzer99

Talk about someone who's seriously at risk of dying if they catch covid.

Whitlock has been eating one meal a day and riding a Paleaton for close to a year I think. He has lost a shit ton of weight.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Whitlock has been eating one meal a day and riding a Paleaton for close to a year I think. He has lost a shit ton of weight.

He's just proving out what we know, that people who are overweight have the highest risk.

[O.city]

Thought I saw where Jason said he hadn’t been doing that but hoped to get back to it.

Not that it really matters just thought I saw him say something about it

[philfree]

Originally Posted by loochy

No, she should get the second shot. Is she really that afraid of a small chance of having a fever for a day? Really?

Who said anything about being afraid? I can't believe she didn't get it when I had it. I was around her for a couple days after I was exposed before my symptoms kicked in. Then I went for the test and came up positive. She may be one of those people who just don't get it. She's tested negative twice.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by philfree

Any news on combining the vaccines?

My wife had the first shot but she's put off getting the second. She received the Moderna so she's supposed to be over 80% protected. Kind of makes the 2nd shot seem silly. I had the virus so I'm in no hurry to sign up but when I do, if I do I'm going to wait for the J&J single shot. I'm wondering since the second shot seems to be the one that causes the most side effects it my be better for her to get the J&J. Maybe the two together could have the best results?

I doubt it would be a problem, but the CDC has said that they have not tested two vaccines together and you shouldn't mix them.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by O.city

Brazil is getting decimated and they have the p1 variant spreading

Not good

Apparently they are having a hell of a time with vaccine rollout too. Not good

[Chief Pagan]

Originally Posted by O.city

Brazil is getting decimated and they have the p1 variant spreading

Not good

Yes and this variant will eventually rip through the USA. I don't see enough people getting vaccinated to reach herd immunity. I hope I'm wrong but I don't currently see it.

But at least it shouldn't be that much longer until everyone that wants a vaccine will have an opportunity to get it.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by philfree

Any news on combining the vaccines?

My wife had the first shot but she's put off getting the second. She received the Moderna so she's supposed to be over 80% protected. Kind of makes the 2nd shot seem silly. I had the virus so I'm in no hurry to sign up but when I do, if I do I'm going to wait for the J&J single shot. I'm wondering since the second shot seems to be the one that causes the most side effects it my be better for her to get the J&J. Maybe the two together could have the best results?

Europe and other places did not give second shots to vaccinate more people yet they are having more outbreaks. Yes there are other contributing factors but **** that get that second shot.

[BigCatDaddy]

So the vacs cover the new variant?

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So the vacs cover the new variant?

Everything I have seen says the J&J definitely does as its been used in S Africa.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

So the vacs cover the new variant?

Pfizer did a lab study that showed it was effective. But they don't have any real world studies completed.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

Everything I have seen says the J&J definitely does as its been used in S Africa.

Cool. Would love to see at least half the population get vaccinated in the next month or so. It looks like we aren't moving too fast.