***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[TLO]

Originally Posted by eDave

Did you actually think you would be the first one to post this?

It's a megathread. You can assume at least one other person has posted your exact take somewhere in the last 40 pages. it's at least a coinflip's chance anything you post is actually original so shoot your shot.

[oaklandhater]

BREAKING: More than 1,350 inmates escape from prisons in São Paulo after tensions over coronavirus restrictions; several guards being held hostage - EFE pic.twitter.com/cbibJzaXjk

— BNO News (@BNONews) March 17, 2020

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by Donger

First participant in coronavirus vaccine trial given dose

A novel coronavirus vaccine trial in the US has now given a dose to its first participant, the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases announced Monday.

So they are going to be purposely exposed to it now?

[OrtonsPiercedTaint]

Maybe the kids can make some money digging pits for outhouses. Call before you dig

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

So they are going to be purposely exposed to it now?

No. The vaccine does not carry COVID-19.

It will take approximately 18 months before the vaccine can be released to the public.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

So they are going to be purposely exposed to it now?

I presume the subject is one who is infected with SARS-CoV-2.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by mr. tegu

So they are going to be purposely exposed to it now?

No. This isn't Tuskegee. You inoculate enough people to reach a threshold of certainty that numerous people would be infected. From there, you are able to ascertain if infection occurred and how serious it was.

When testing Truvada for PrEP they didn't tell men to have unprotected sex with guys with HIV, but the groups were likely to have that occur enough to document a certain level of infection. When those were nearly nonexistent, they were able to say with conviction that it is effective for PrEP.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Donger

I presume the subject is one who is infected with SARS-CoV-2.

Giving a vaccine to someone already infected serves no purpose, as the virus itself would initiate an immune response. The exception to this rule would be in the case of influenza, where four strains predominate and one can become infected with multiple strains in a single season.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Giving a vaccine to someone already infected serves no purpose, as the virus itself would initiate an immune response. The exception to this rule would be in the case of influenza, where four strains predominate and one can become infected with multiple strains in a single season.

Yes, I completely mis-read his post.

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Donger

Yes, I completely mis-read his post.

Happens to the best of us. Even those with status.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Happens to the best of us. Even those with status.

Back to steerage, peasant! And take your chickens with you!

[O.city]

Gotta make sure and get a full immune response

Iirc a partial one could just make it worse

[Discuss Thrower]

Kentucky Derby postponed until September.

[Shiver Me Timbers]

Originally Posted by eDave

Has there been a run on diapers?

Depends

[TLO]

Originally Posted by Shiver Me Timbers

Depends