***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by ghak99

There you go sending my decision right back to where it started.

Lucky for you, CP has a very experienced TV room heating fire lighter if you need assistance. Don't let his name scare you, In58men refers to his occupation, not his room heating abilities.

Oh, good idea. And I'd probably get some barbecue, too. I may have to ping him.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

But it feels so good.

Oh, who am I kidding? It's making no difference. I'll try your way.

Increasing your body temp might make the chills feel worse, at least sitting on a lava lamp wasn't part of your treatment.

[WhawhaWhat]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I was doing pretty good for the first 24 hours and then I got hammered.

I've had many weekends like this.

[KCUnited]

24 hours post 2nd Pfizer shot and starting to feel some mild fatigue and brain fog

[George Liquor]

I got my 2nd coof shot yesterday, outside of feeling like I got punched in my left arm, no side effects.

I'm done with masks

[KCUnited]

Chicago now has enough vaccine for anyone 16 and over

Walk-ins available around the city

[sedated]

When you people got your shots, did you get them in your dominant arm (right for most) or...submissive(?)...arm?

I heard using the arm heavily after the shot prevents soreness, but mine felt like I got punched by Tyson for 2 days. I'm hoping this isn't an indication of sickness level on the 2nd shot.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by sedated

When you people got your shots, did you get them in your dominant arm (right for most) or...submissive(?)...arm?

I heard using the arm heavily after the shot prevents soreness, but mine felt like I got punched by Tyson for 2 days. I'm hoping this isn't an indication of sickness level on the 2nd shot.

Got mine in my dominant arm. Hurt like hell for about 2 days. 2nd shot caused even more arm soreness along with muscle aches and fatigue.

Didn't take any pain relievers after the first shot. Needed Tylenol about 16 hours after the 2nd. Side effects were managed effectively with just the Tylenol.

[KCUnited]

Non-dominant in case something went sideways, similar to a pitcher punching someone. 100% unnecessary, still thought about it.

[Strongside]

Got my 2nd yesterday. Aside from feeling like someone went at my thighs and shoulder with a baseball bat, I’m fine.

My mom asked how I was doing and I told her “just the usual stuff. Pee myself and black out for 10-15 mins and then I’m right back to normal.” Which freaked her out.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by sedated

When you people got your shots, did you get them in your dominant arm (right for most) or...submissive(?)...arm?

I heard using the arm heavily after the shot prevents soreness, but mine felt like I got punched by Tyson for 2 days. I'm hoping this isn't an indication of sickness level on the 2nd shot.

Less dominant arm, but only because I didn't want to sleep on it for two nights.

Moved it quite a bit after the shot, but still ended up with a rash and soreness (and neither of those mattered when compared to the general "hit by a truck" feeling)

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by sedated

When you people got your shots, did you get them in your dominant arm (right for most) or...submissive(?)...arm?

I heard using the arm heavily after the shot prevents soreness, but mine felt like I got punched by Tyson for 2 days. I'm hoping this isn't an indication of sickness level on the 2nd shot.

I switched it up. I'm big on symmetry. First shot right, second shot left.

[old_geezer]

Originally Posted by sedated

When you people got your shots, did you get them in your dominant arm (right for most) or...submissive(?)...arm?.

I got both shots in my non-dominant arm. Minor soreness is all I ever experienced.

[Sure-Oz]

Non dominant. It was fine after 2 days. Never got sick...just a little soreness/tiredness on 2nd pfizer

[mlyonsd]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Non dominant. It was fine after 2 days. Never got sick...just a little soreness/tiredness on 2nd pfizer

Same.