***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[POND_OF_RED]

Travelled to Ontario for the first time since all this shit started. Never felt more thankful to be an American. It’s absolute hell up here. I’m sorry to all of our Canadians on this board. What a disaster.

[sedated]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

Travelled to Ontario for the first time since all this shit started. Never felt more thankful to be an American. It’s absolute hell up here. I’m sorry to all of our Canadians on this board. What a disaster.

Care to elaborate?

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by sedated

Care to elaborate?

It’s basically still like the west coast was last April but even worse. Everything is closed. They even have areas taped off in Walmart to only allow you to buy food basically. I tried to buy a notebook but it wasn’t essential. The place is a joke. They don’t give a shit if you’re vaccinated or not. I’m luckily exempt from the 14 day mandatory quarantine of being stuck in a hotel. I think I would have lost my mind. Trying to schedule a test to get back to the states is difficult and expensive. A lot of the essential workers I spoke with this week still haven’t gotten their vaccines yet because it’s been terribly organized from what they are saying. Basically God Bless the USA!

[MahomesMagic]

For those still wearing masks outside...

Based on Dr. Høeg’s math below, and assuming a generous 0.4% infection fatality rate an individual has a one in 600 million chance of dying from a COVID infection that was transmitted outdoors https://t.co/G7pCniuXcE

— Eric (@IAmTheActualET) May 11, 2021

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by POND_OF_RED

It’s basically still like the west coast was last April but even worse. Everything is closed. They even have areas taped off in Walmart to only allow you to buy food basically. I tried to buy a notebook but it wasn’t essential. The place is a joke. They don’t give a shit if you’re vaccinated or not. I’m luckily exempt from the 14 day mandatory quarantine of being stuck in a hotel. I think I would have lost my mind. Trying to schedule a test to get back to the states is difficult and expensive. A lot of the essential workers I spoke with this week still haven’t gotten their vaccines yet because it’s been terribly organized from what they are saying. Basically God Bless the USA!

Why would you be trying to buy a notebook at a Canadian Wallmart?
They did mess up the vaccination issue and should have been more aggressive earlier in the pandemic like NZ .

[TLO]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

For those still wearing masks outside...

Based on Dr. Høeg’s math below, and assuming a generous 0.4% infection fatality rate an individual has a one in 600 million chance of dying from a COVID infection that was transmitted outdoors https://t.co/G7pCniuXcE

— Eric (@IAmTheActualET) May 11, 2021

I never wore.a mask outside. Never made any kind of logical sense to me.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Why would you be trying to buy a notebook at a Canadian Wallmart?

Yeah, dude!! What are you trying to prove?!?!?!

Oh, big man, . . . . just buys paper products whenever and wherever he wants!!

La dee dah!! I need a notebook and I haven't even checked out the national customs on notebook procurement!! DO I LOOK LIKE I CARE?!??!

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Yeah, dude!! What are you trying to prove?!?!?!

Oh, big man, . . . . just buys paper products whenever and wherever he wants!!

La dee dah!! I need a notebook and I haven't even checked out the national customs on notebook procurement!! DO I LOOK LIKE I CARE?!??!

Some people refer to laptops as notebooks, if it was a paper notebook it would still be weird since I didn't think that was a popular options these days. You think such a pro American would have preferred to buy it locally in America instead of giving his money to us and it seems weird to be looking to buy one on short trip even if work related .

[sedated]

Originally Posted by TLO

I never wore.a mask outside. Never made any kind of logical sense to me.

Same. I'm pro-mask, but genuinely confuses me when I see people walking their dogs alone with a mask on.

Although it did keep my face warm(er) when it was cold outside, so there's that.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by sedated

Same. I'm pro-mask, but genuinely confuses me when I see people walking their dogs alone with a mask on.

Although it did keep my face warm(er) when it was cold outside, so there's that.

I admit I did wear it outside a few times to keep my face warm at -40c I don't really care what I look like or what people say , but I have neve worn 1 outside because of covid.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Why would you be trying to buy a notebook at a Canadian Wallmart?
They did mess up the vaccination issue and should have been more aggressive earlier in the pandemic like NZ .

Maybe he needed to write something down? I keep one around all the time for passwords, random thoughts & ideas.

Poor Canada, so much potential being crippled.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Some people refer to laptops as notebooks, if it was a paper notebook it would still be weird since I didn't think that was a popular options these days. You think such a pro American would have preferred to buy it locally in America instead of giving his money to us and it seems weird to be looking to buy one on short trip even if work related .

Not sure how carrying a notebook is weird. I typically carry one with me around the hospital I’m working to jot notes down because pen and paper has been our most reliable source of documentation since mankind started figuring this shit out. It wasn’t the end of the world since I can steal paper from any printer in the hospital and write notes on that, it was really just a side purchase while I was forced into buying food from there because it was the only place I could find that was open at 9:30 on a Thursday night.

I’ve been traveling around nonstop through all of this COVID stuff and the restrictions up here are similar only to my visit to Hawaii last April when this was all just starting. I was simply saying that it sucks and pointing out reasons why it does. In the states we’re not back to normal but I think a ton of people would be absolutely livid if they were still having to deal with these types of restrictions. I know most of the hospital and hotel staff I’ve talked to this week are pretty sick of it as well. Seems like it’s been just a jumbled mess with the whole vaccine rollout and closures.

Sorry for wanting paper and a better life for you all. I really hope it gets better up here soon. I used to love coming up here for work.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Otter

Maybe he needed to write something down? I keep one around all the time for passwords, random thoughts & ideas.

Poor Canada, so much potential being crippled.

When I hear notebook I think laptop, most phones can handle the thoughts and ideas as well and remembers your passwords for you.

[Otter]

Originally Posted by Monticore

When I hear notebook I think laptop, most phones can handle the thoughts and ideas as well and remembers your passwords for you.

I have passwords and code I can't afford to put on a device capable of being accessed.

No, I'm not a secret, undercover, CIA, space cowboy, James Bond, like BRC.

[POND_OF_RED]

Originally Posted by Monticore

When I hear notebook I think laptop, most phones can handle the thoughts and ideas as well and remembers your passwords for you.

I grew up in the 90’s before cell phones so I think we may just have a different opinion on which is more reliable and convenient. If I ever get too lazy to jot notes down on a piece of paper just ship me to Canada to live in quarantine for the rest of my days. It’s over for me anyways.