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Old 06-21-2022, 02:48 PM   #1
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Production value and the story line have been shit. Can they not even afford good CGI in this?

I love the people saying stuff to the effect of... it is Star Wars... what do you expect?

I expect something good or something better than good... not shit.
The Mandalorian is the bar.

This doesn't approach it. Nowhere even close. From storytelling to CGI, The Mandalorian demonstrates what CAN be done.

I don't see why any of us need to apologize for pointing out that here it most assuredly was NOT done. With easily the coolest property they have unmined and almost certainly the most talented actor they have EVER had in this entire franchise.

It's just frustrating, that's all.
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Old 06-21-2022, 03:01 PM   #2
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The Mandalorian is the bar.

This doesn't approach it. Nowhere even close. From storytelling to CGI, The Mandalorian demonstrates what CAN be done.

I don't see why any of us need to apologize for pointing out that here it most assuredly was NOT done. With easily the coolest property they have unmined and almost certainly the most talented actor they have EVER had in this entire franchise.

It's just frustrating, that's all.
Mando's storytelling ended up feeling like a typical fetch quest RPG by season 2.
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Old 06-21-2022, 03:40 PM   #3
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Mando's storytelling ended up feeling like a typical fetch quest RPG by season 2.
It did, yes.

But it was also interesting. The ancillary characters were good. The production values were good.

I found the 'bottle episodes' as engaging and entertaining as any 'payoff' episode of Obi Wan.

When your filler is as good as the filet mignon someone else is serving, that's a pretty strong sign that the latter just isn't a very good chef.
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like, do you even know what you're watching?

the plot holes in the greatest star wars film ever, the empire strikes back, are STAGGERINGLY LARGE:

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The beginning of the movie-sending the "leader of the freedom fighters" (according to the title crawl) alongside one of his top generals for a solo sweep in a mostly uncharted ice desert? Not the best strategic choice, now is it?
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Why didn't Han pay off his debt to Jabba in between films? Just lightspeed there for a sec and rejoin the rebellion soon after, why keep delaying it after the incident with Greedo?
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AT-AT armor is too strong for blasters... until it falls? And if you need to hit an (unestablished) weak spot why not do it while the walker is very slowly, well... walking?
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AT-AT "too strong for blasters" armor not being used on death star exhaust ports and TIE-Fighters (no weight in space)
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If Vader wouldn't have uncharacteristically half-assed it by ordering Piett to ONLY turn off 1 switch when they could have done so much more-like why not cause permanent damage to it, things that make the Falcon be able to fly in the first place (like the engine) or just destroy the Falcon entirely while you're already at it? If the empire wanted to keep it, then why not order some stormtroopers/cloud city pilots to take off with it immediately? There is no reason for the empire to be content with just disabling the Falcon's hyperdrive.
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Old 06-21-2022, 10:34 AM   #6
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like, do you even know what you're watching?

the plot holes in the greatest star wars film ever, the empire strikes back, are STAGGERINGLY LARGE:
Ah. So your defense is that of a "Star Wars has always been dumb" fanboy.

Gotcha.

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Ah. So your defense is that of a "Star Wars has always been dumb" fanboy.

Gotcha.

Enjoy man. Lmmfgdao.
Kind of curious where y'all would rank this series in relation to the Disney trilogy of films. I'd still take this over any of those, but that sort of speaks more to how badly I despise all 3 of those movies.
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Old 06-21-2022, 12:33 PM   #8
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Kind of curious where y'all would rank this series in relation to the Disney trilogy of films. I'd still take this over any of those, but that sort of speaks more to how badly I despise all 3 of those movies.
I've always been ok with TFA and TLJ, but I watched ROS over the weekend and I still can't believe they greenlit that story. What they also did to the Finn character after TFA is also awful.
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I've always been ok with TFA and TLJ, but I watched ROS over the weekend and I still can't believe they greenlit that story. What they also did to the Finn character after TFA is also awful.
I hate them all because of how they treated the original cast of characters. Granted, most of the blame goes to JJ Abrams for that one, essentially ruining Han and Leias happily ever after and leaving Rian Johnson to reverse engineer why Luke is a pussy hiding out on some planet where no one can find him.
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Kind of curious where y'all would rank this series in relation to the Disney trilogy of films. I'd still take this over any of those, but that sort of speaks more to how badly I despise all 3 of those movies.
I will still re-watch TFA, but I'm pretty sure I'm in a decided minority in my affinity for it.

Empire
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Mando
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
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TFA
Book of Boba
Obi Wan
Revenge of the Sith
TLJ
Phantom Menace
AOTC
Rise of Skywalker

I think I covered 'em all in there.
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I will still re-watch TFA, but I'm pretty sure I'm in a decided minority in my affinity for it.

Empire
New Hope
Mando
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
Solo
TFA
Book of Boba
Obi Wan
Revenge of the Sith
TLJ
Phantom Menace
Rise of Skywalker

I think I covered 'em all in there.
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Swap around ROTS and TFA and that's pretty much the exact same list as far as stuff I've actually watched. So no Mando, Boba Fett, or Solo.
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I will still re-watch TFA, but I'm pretty sure I'm in a decided minority in my affinity for it.

Empire
New Hope
Mando
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
Solo
TFA
Book of Boba
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Rise of Skywalker

I think I covered 'em all in there.
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I will still re-watch TFA, but I'm pretty sure I'm in a decided minority in my affinity for it.

Empire
New Hope
Mando
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
Solo
TFA
Book of Boba
Obi Wan
Revenge of the Sith
TLJ
Phantom Menace
AOTC
Rise of Skywalker

I think I covered 'em all in there.
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Old 06-22-2022, 02:23 AM   #14
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I will still re-watch TFA, but I'm pretty sure I'm in a decided minority in my affinity for it.

Empire
New Hope
Mando
Rogue One
Return of the Jedi
Solo
TFA
Book of Boba
Obi Wan
Revenge of the Sith
TLJ
Phantom Menace
AOTC
Rise of Skywalker

I think I covered 'em all in there.


I'm perfectly capable of enjoying Obi as flawed popcorn fare with occasional narrative delights, . . . but the Claystanning in this thread certainly at the very least erodes the credibility of his righteous anger at a the Predator project he hasn't even seen yet.
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Ah. So your defense is that of a "Star Wars has always been dumb" fanboy.
i mean, it's kinda true

you're just seeing it through a different lens now than you did when you first saw the original trilogy, which colors your perception

it's no different than the prequels
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