***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[loochy]

Originally Posted by TLO

Which one are the news outlets reporting?

Whichever one causes the most unrest and alarm

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by loochy

Whichever one causes the most unrest and alarm

Yeah, I think I've been a pretty solid realist through this whole thing, and the alarmism is getting tiring.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Yeah, I think I've been a pretty solid realist through this whole thing, and the alarmism is getting tiring.

That's where I'm at too. Hell, I stopped watching the news entirely around last April and I haven't tuned back in since. If I want news on it, I can usually find some actual data driven links in this thread and I learned to use the CDC and local health department websites/tableaus.

[KCUnited]

A somewhat observable phenomenon, at least in my personable bubble, is that the only people still talking about or fretting over Covid are vaccinated.

[loochy]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

A somewhat observable phenomenon, at least in my personable bubble, is that the only people still talking about or fretting over Covid are vaccinated.

A somewhat observable phenomenon, at least in my personal bubble, is that nobody in this entire state (Texas) gives a damn anymore - vaccinated or non. Everything is completely normal. All of the angst seems to come from articles originating in far off, mythical lands elsewhere in this country or beyond.

[BigCatDaddy]

I'm fully vaccinated and pretty sure myself and family have the new variant. My wife feels like shit but no fever and my teen son has felt a little off. Meanwhile,I feel totally fine but lost most of my sense of taste all of a sudden.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I'm fully vaccinated and pretty sure myself and family have the new variant. My wife feels like shit but no fever and my teen son has felt a little off. Meanwhile,I feel totally fine but lost most of my sense of taste all of a sudden.

shit. Hope you and your family get better.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I'm fully vaccinated and pretty sure myself and family have the new variant. My wife feels like shit but no fever and my teen son has felt a little off. Meanwhile,I feel totally fine but lost most of my sense of taste all of a sudden.

Since becoming vaccinated and eschewing masks and other mitigating practices at work and home l, I've resigned myself to eventually catching it because of all the unvaccinated tards in this region.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I'm fully vaccinated and pretty sure myself and family have the new variant. My wife feels like shit but no fever and my teen son has felt a little off. Meanwhile,I feel totally fine but lost most of my sense of taste all of a sudden.

We had to have our 8 year old tested this week, he’s had fever and cough etc. it was negative so there’s definitely a summer cold/normal shit going around

[Marcellus]

Originally Posted by BigBeauford

Since becoming vaccinated and eschewing masks and other mitigating practices at work and home l, I've resigned myself to eventually catching it because of all the unvaccinated tards in this region.

So you don't think the vaccine works but yet apparently you do because you are complaining about people not getting it. Interesting.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by O.city

We had to have our 8 year old tested this week, he’s had fever and cough etc. it was negative so there’s definitely a summer cold/normal shit going around

My wife's friend who is a peds nurse states they had a lot of admissions recently for RSV.

[BigBeauford]

Originally Posted by Marcellus

So you don't think the vaccine works but yet apparently you do because you are complaining about people not getting it. Interesting.

It works at reducing severety of illness in virtually all cases. That doesn't mean I am jonesing to experience symptoms like loss of taste should I contract any form of the virus.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by O.city

We had to have our 8 year old tested this week, he’s had fever and cough etc. it was negative so there’s definitely a summer cold/normal shit going around

Could be that but I've never had an issue with taste like I have now and other than that feel fine.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Could be that but I've never had an issue with taste like I have now and other than that feel fine.

For sure

That may be the case but hopefully this is all you guys get. We’ve got some friends where I grew up both in their late 30s in the hospital with it right now.

Last I heard she was improving but he wasn’t doing very well.

[NotDonger]

For those interested, new data regarding Delta percentages by state:

Missouri = 73.3%
Nevada = 39.7%
Colorado = 36.3%
California = 29.6%
New Jersey = 27.6%
Texas = 21.6%

All others below 20%