***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by old_geezer

I was going to say this is me in a nutshell but before I was vaccinated I wore a mask only when absolutely necessary (required) and since being vaccinated I have been able to avoid any place that still requires a mask. I do agree that it is the right of any business to require a mask if they so desire and I then have the option of wearing one or going somewhere else.

I was extremely careful for the longest time. Now we're making up for lost time and taking a lot of trips. Gotta wear masks in airports and on planes still. And I won't always avoid a business that requires a mask but I might see if there are other convenient options. Wearing a mask is annoying at this point. I can deal with annoying if I need to.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Apparently I do. I got the Moderna one back in March.



I've had nothing of note besides this damn lost of taste..it's miserable..Great way to lose a few pounds I guess.

When did you get covid? How long have you been without taste? Does that take a long time to come back?

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

When did you get covid? How long have you been without taste? Does that take a long time to come back?

I never got tested but I'd say 2-3 weeks back. I woke up one night, ate a glazed donut and about puked..I assumed it was stale and went back to bad. The next everything tasted like what I imagine cardboard taste like. My son had some mild issues..trouble breathing playing basketball, runy nose and loss of appetite for a few days. I'm getting him vaccinated shortly. He is 13.

[mr. tegu]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Any suggestions on how to get my sense of taste back? This sucks.

Indian food.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I never got tested but I'd say 2-3 weeks back. I woke up one night, ate a glazed donut and about puked..I assumed it was stale and went back to bad. The next everything tasted like what I imagine cardboard taste like. My son had some mild issues..trouble breathing playing basketball, runy nose and loss of appetite for a few days. I'm getting him vaccinated shortly. He is 13.

Damn. Hope you get all get better soon. Hope that taste comes back soon. I've heard it can be a few weeks to a few months.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Damn. Hope you get all get better soon. Hope that taste comes back soon. I've heard it can be a few weeks to a few months.

I've heard 6 months or longer for some.

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I've heard 6 months or longer for some.

Crossing my fingers...it's much less. What has your Dr recommended? Eating random shit like onions or something

I have hardly read about that part of the symptoms

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

Crossing my fingers...it's much less. What has your Dr recommended? Eating random shit like onions or something

I have hardly read about that part of the symptoms

I haven't spoken to a doc..heard something about eating a burnt orange with brown sugar but sounds like bullshit.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by KCUnited

I just looked it up and the CTA still requires masks for all passengers, so I guess I should pack one on me at all times just in case as a bus wouldn't of been an option for me either. Shows how long its been since I've rode a bus or train, which used to be an every other day event pre-Covid.

I just stick one in my pocket whenever I go out. If I am going into Target without my kids I won't wear it but then places like the post office are iffy because they are federal property so I just throw it on just in case. Plus in the post office if there are people in there, they are usually 900 years old so want to be safe for them too just in case.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by IA_Chiefs_fan

I stopped wearing a mask as soon as I was fully vaccinated and everyone else had a chance to get it if they wanted. Prior to that, I was extremely careful and always wore a mask. Now it's back to life as usual for me unless a business asks me to wear a mask. I'm happy to oblige if that's their policy.

Level-headed take, we need a LOT more of that in the world today.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I've heard 6 months or longer for some.

If you didn't have other severe symptoms, I would hope your taste would come back pretty soon. I think it stays away longer for long-haulers but that doesn't appear to be you. Just my amateur opinion from personal anecdotal evidence I have heard about. Regardless, good thoughts your way.

[IA_Chiefs_fan]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

I've heard 6 months or longer for some.

My daughter had mild COVID in December. She still can't eat a lot of food because they "taste like COVID". That's what she calls it. It has ruined a lot of her favorite foods for her. Hopefully she eventually gets her full taste back. Hope you do too.

[MahomesMagic]

United Kingdom
British ministers decide against mass vaccination for teens - The Telegraph
Reuters

July 17 (Reuters) - Britain has opted against mass COVID-19 vaccinations for all children and teenagers, with ministers instead preparing to offer doses to vulnerable 12 to 15-year-olds and those about to turn 18, the Telegraph newspaper reported late on Saturday.

The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) is believed to have advised ministers against the rollout of vaccines to all children until further evidence on the risks is available, the report added.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/bri...ph-2021-07-17/

[O.city]

I think thats the right thing to do with our current knowledge.

[TLO]

Originally Posted by MahomesMagic

United Kingdom
British ministers decide against mass vaccination for teens - The Telegraph
Reuters

July 17 (Reuters) - Britain has opted against mass COVID-19 vaccinations for all children and teenagers, with ministers instead preparing to offer doses to vulnerable 12 to 15-year-olds and those about to turn 18, the Telegraph newspaper reported late on Saturday.

The Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI) is believed to have advised ministers against the rollout of vaccines to all children until further evidence on the risks is available, the report added.

https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/bri...ph-2021-07-17/

Sounds like the right way to go.