Browns sign Kareem Hunt

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Makes me lol reading posts from the homers defending the ridiculous move to release Kareem Hunt. Let me guess you all think Kareem is a scumbag because of this minor incident? What a joke...

We had to move on anyway. Yeah, ideally he doesn't kick the woman, get put on commissioner's exempt for the entire rest of the season, and then get 8 games tacked on to begin this season. Ideally he plays the rest of last year, all of this year, and then the next. But he did what he did, and then he got suspended. That means we had to find a suitable replacement during that time anyway. And if we were going to do it for that long, we may as well count on that being our solution for the immediate future, because we ain't keeping Hunt past his rookie deal. I get that's an entire extra year we're then missing out on, but sometimes it's just better to move on early than deal with the enormous headache he would have been.

We're better off in the long run.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by RealSNR

We had to move on anyway. Yeah, ideally he doesn't kick the woman, get put on commissioner's exempt for the entire rest of the season, and then get 8 games tacked on to begin this season. Ideally he plays the rest of last year, all of this year, and then the next. But he did what he did, and then he got suspended. That means we had to find a suitable replacement during that time anyway. And if we were going to do it for that long, we may as well count on that being our solution for the immediate future, because we ain't keeping Hunt past his rookie deal. I get that's an entire extra year we're then missing out on, but sometimes it's just better to move on early than deal with the enormous headache he would have been.

We're better off in the long run.

How are we better off? Williams was already his backup. Hunt would currently be stashed and we would have likely drafted a back in the 5th with Hunt out for half the season.

What would actually be different, other than we would have had one more option available to us after week 8 or so? Perhaps we wouldn't have signed Carlos Hyde?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

How are we better off? Williams was already his backup. Hunt would currently be stashed and we would have likely drafted a back in the 5th with Hunt out for half the season.

What would actually be different, other than we would have had one more option available to us after week 8 or so? Perhaps we wouldn't have signed Carlos Hyde?

We likely wouldn't have drafted Darwin Thompson.

At worst, we're where we would have been if we kept him.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by -King-

We likely wouldn't have drafted Darwin Thompson.

At worst, we're where we would have been if we kept him.

Well, except, we'd have a league-leading rusher coming in fresh after week 8 or so, ready to pound the **** out of defenses for absolutely zero cost. I mean, we'd have that.

(I DO love Darwin, BTW, and think we would have still drafted him and would NOT have signed Carlos Hyde).

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

How are we better off? Williams was already his backup. Hunt would currently be stashed and we would have likely drafted a back in the 5th with Hunt out for half the season.

What would actually be different, other than we would have had one more option available to us after week 8 or so? Perhaps we wouldn't have signed Carlos Hyde?

Serious Q. Do you find the lying to the face of the brass of the organization about matters you did that are presently vital to the health of the organization COMPLETELY irrelevant?

I know you posited this hypothetical that Mahomes could do it. But the utility of this hypothetical is essentially nil, premised on the fairly solid notion that Mahomes NEVER WOULD do it, . . . which is a not-insignificant portion of his value to the organization.

Do you think the business world is just chock full of people who lie to their bosses about conduct detrimental to organizational health?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Serious Q. Do you find the lying to the face of the brass of the organization about matters you did that are presently vital to the health of the organization COMPLETELY irrelevant?

I know you posited this hypothetical that Mahomes could do it. But the utility of this hypothetical is essentially nil, premised on the fairly solid notion that Mahomes NEVER WOULD do it, . . . which is a not-insignificant portion of his value to the organization.

Do you think the business world is just chock full of people who lie to their bosses about conduct detrimental to organizational health?

Hunt was made the example and I am thinking what happened to him is one reason why Tyreek is still on this team.

[TwistedChief]

Originally Posted by Baby Lee

Serious Q. Do you find the lying to the face of the brass of the organization about matters you did that are presently vital to the health of the organization COMPLETELY irrelevant?

I know you posited this hypothetical that Mahomes could do it. But the utility of this hypothetical is essentially nil, premised on the fairly solid notion that Mahomes NEVER WOULD do it, . . . which is a not-insignificant portion of his value to the organization.

Do you think the business world is just chock full of people who lie to their bosses about conduct detrimental to organizational health?

You’ve nailed it here.

I don’t know what world some of you live and work in where you can outright lie to your boss about something that directly affects his livelihood and think that it shouldn’t have some major repercussions. And if you were on the opposite end and had an employee who had Kareem’s consistent run-ins and then lied about it, would you really just write it off?

Putting all of that to the side:
Some seem to ignore that keeping Kareem would’ve likely brought all of the Tyreek Hill backstory back to the forefront as the Chiefs would’ve been labeled the NFL’s domestic abuse misfits. And then when Hill had his own vignette this offseason, the likelihood of our having stood by him would’ve been nil.

Regurgitating this discussion is so unnecessary.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

Makes me lol reading posts from the homers defending the ridiculous move to release Kareem Hunt. Let me guess you all think Kareem is a scumbag because of this minor incident? What a joke...

Good grief. He knew he got in trouble for something that would jeopardize his career but also cause a distraction to his team. Not only did he lie about it. He went out drinking again and again, and got in fights again and again. So then he goes on this apology tour where he has this sob story to espn about how he's trying. Dorsey gives him one hell of a second chance. And he goes out drinking and gets into something AGAIN.

Stop with this minor incident bullshit. Not only did kareem lie, he is a ticking time bomb because he refuses to make changes. Regardless of what you think of tyreek, at least he has been sincere and making an effort. Trouble came to in. Kareem on the other hand creates trouble.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Good grief. He knew he got in trouble for something that would jeopardize his career but also cause a distraction to his team. Not only did he lie about it. He went out drinking again and again, and got in fights again and again. So then he goes on this apology tour where he has this sob story to espn about how he's trying. Dorsey gives him one hell of a second chance. And he goes out drinking and gets into something AGAIN.

Stop with this minor incident bullshit. Not only did kareem lie, he is a ticking time bomb because he refuses to make changes. Regardless of what you think of tyreek, at least he has been sincere and making an effort. Trouble came to in. Kareem on the other hand creates trouble.

It's amazing, isn't it? People are so willing to ignore not only the first, but 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and even SIXTH incident.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's amazing, isn't it? People are so willing to ignore not only the first, but 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and even SIXTH incident.

It's because he's good, if you are really good people have different standards for you.

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Mecca

It's because he's good, if you are really good people have different standards for you.

Actually, given who is constantly defending him, I'm going to suggest you look at his skin color. I know it sounds ridiculous but I'm absolutely serious.

[threebag]

Originally Posted by htismaqe

It's amazing, isn't it? People are so willing to ignore not only the first, but 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th and even SIXTH incident.

He is sorry he got caught

[keg in kc]

In a perfect world, Hunt would have told the team what he did from the beginning, would have been suspended by the league early last season and finished the year strong in KC including the playoff run.

That's what I wish had happened.

But he lied.

[Baby Lee]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

In a perfect world, Hunt would have told the team what he did from the beginning, would have been suspended by the league early last season and finished the year strong in KC including the playoff run.

That's what I wish had happened Kareem had done to begin with.

But he lied.

FYP to correct overly charitable passive voice.

[keg in kc]

I kinda think "but he lied" took care of that, but sure...