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TRR · 04-18-2010, 10:56 AM

Not sure if it has been posted.....

Chiefs Are 'Badly' Trying To Trade Down To Middle Of First*Round

by Joel Thorman on Apr 18, 2010 10:34 AM CDT in 2010 Campaign

Last year about this time, Michael Lombardi of the National Football Post first reported that the Chiefs were "in love" with LSU DE Tyson Jackson. A few days later and Jackson was the Chiefs pick in the draft.

Now Lombardi reports that the Chiefs are trying like hell to move down in the draft.

"The Chiefs are trying, and I mean really trying, to move down," Lombardi reports. "My sources tell me they'll be willing to go down as far as 15 for the right deal because they feel they can find a player in that range."

It's a fine line between trading down and trading down too far. According to Lombardi, our theory of the Eagles offering up the 24th and 37th picks for the Chiefs fifth pick doesn't look like it's happening. By staying around 15, they can still have a shot at a game changer -- Alabama LB Rolando McClain and Texas S Earl Thomas come to mind here -- as well as picking up extra selections.

That said, who's the Chiefs trading partner? SB Nation's Mocking The Draft takes an excellent look at this situation and comes to the conclusion that San Francisco might be the only team in that area that has a chance of moving up.

Lombardi reports the Chiefs are hoping someone wants to get in line to pick Notre Dame QB Jimmy Clausen.

Chiefnj2 · 04-19-2010, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by billay

Earl Thomas is going to be a very good player. The people who say he can't play the run need to actually watch the games. Texas front seven was so good infact the best in the nation first the run they didn't need to put a safety in the box.

I'd take Berry over Thomas in an even transaction, but I still think Thomas is a top 10 player.

Thomas' first 2 years at Texas:
97 solo tackles, 10 INTs, 20 PBU

Berry's first two years at Tenn:
101 solo tackles, 12 INTS, 10 PBU.

ChiefsCountry · 04-19-2010, 11:55 AM

Pioli better pull a 2003 Patriots draft out of his ass this year.

mcaj22 · 04-19-2010, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Earl Thomas is going to be a very good player. The people who say he can't play the run need to actually watch the games. Texas front seven was so good infact the best in the nation first the run they didn't need to put a safety in the box.

and the Chiefs by NFL talent do not have a good front 7. So we do need to put a safety in the box. Eric Berry has the talent to do that. He did it all last year on Tennessee's horrible defense.

Garcia Bronco · 04-19-2010, 12:08 PM

I would trade down from the top ten everytime if I could. It's typically a gigantic waste of money.

Chiefnj2 · 04-19-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

and the Chiefs by NFL talent do not have a good front 7. So we do need to put a safety in the box. Eric Berry has the talent to do that. He did it all last year on Tennessee's horrible defense.

You are wasting his talent putting him the box. If you are looking to solidify your run defense with a strong safety then take someone in the 2nd or 3rd. It's a deep class.

Micjones · 04-19-2010, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

I'd rather have Berry.

As would I, but this team needs so much help...
Would it kill us to get the 3rd best Safety in this class AND an impact LB BOTH in the First Round?

You could snag a Nose with that 2a pick (maybe)...
And by then you'd have significantly addressed the defense.
Opens that 2b pick up wide to just about anything.

**Rausch** · 04-19-2010, 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

I would trade down from the top ten everytime if I could. It's typically a gigantic waste of money.

Ditto.

We don't need 2 all pros to complete the team.

We need about 9 solid starters...

Titty Meat · 04-19-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

and the Chiefs by NFL talent do not have a good front 7. So we do need to put a safety in the box. Eric Berry has the talent to do that. He did it all last year on Tennessee's horrible defense.

I'm not saying i'd draft Thomas over Berry either. I'm saying Thomas is an unerrated player on this board.

ChiefsCountry · 04-19-2010, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

Ditto.

We don't need 2 all pros to complete the team.

We need about 9 solid starters...

Bullshit. You need bonafide stars to win in the NFL.

Titty Meat · 04-19-2010, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Bullshit. You need bonafide stars to win in the NFL.

You could make the argument had the Chiefs drafted Sanchez last year trading down in this draft would be the smart thing.

ChiefsCountry · 04-19-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

You could make the argument had the Chiefs drafted Sanchez last year trading down in this draft would be the smart thing.

Only if somebody wanted Clausen.

KCDC · 04-19-2010, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Micjones

As would I, but this team needs so much help...
Would it kill us to get the 3rd best Safety in this class AND an impact LB BOTH in the First Round?

You could snag a Nose with that 2a pick (maybe)...
And by then you'd have significantly addressed the defense.
Opens that 2b pick up wide to just about anything.

I agree. I am totally sold on Berry. Yet, I would take getting both Earl Thomas and, for example, a top RT or ILB for Berry. Yes we need playmakers. No, I don't want quantity over quality. I put to you all that quality still exists in the second round. It is not like anyone is saying trade down to collect 5 picks in rounds 4+. That is where you get part time players, back-ups, and such. No, you should get a starter every time in the first two rounds of this draft (if Pioli has any skill).

If Berry is a 9 (on a 1-10 scale), I think Thomas is maybe an 8. If you can also get a top three rated WR/ILB/RT/TE/OLB as well, you might have two pro Bowl players on your hands (maybe three if you get another high pick too), rather than one.

I'm also starting to think that Clausen is going to slide to #30. If so, let's use the extra picks to trade up out of round 2 to get pick #29 and snag him too.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-19-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC

I'm also starting to think that Clausen is going to slide to #30. If so, let's use the extra picks to trade up out of round 2 to get pick #29 and snag him too.

No ****ing way.

If Clausen is sitting at #30, he'll be there at #36.

Indy won't take him, NO won't take him, the Rams won't take him, the Lions won't take him and the Bucs won't take him.

Why in the ****ing world would you give up your extremely valuable second round picks this year when there's absolutely no reason to do so?

**DeezNutz** · 04-19-2010, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by KCDC

I'm also starting to think that Clausen is going to slide to #30. If so, let's use the extra picks to trade up out of round 2 to get pick #29 and snag him too.

No chance.

If he starts to tumble into the high teens, someone will move up to get him.

All moot, though, as he'll be off the board in the top 10.

michaelj_58 · 04-19-2010, 02:34 PM

yes i would like to see the chiefs pick weatherspoon. not in the first round, i think he will go in the second but he is going to surprise a lot of people.

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