***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

@AP: Moderna officials say while the COVID-19 vaccine protection is holding up, they’re planning for a booster to help fight the delta variant. Moderna President Stephen Hoge says a booster likely will be needed to “keep us as safe as possible” this winter. http://apne.ws/OzvYKB6

Didn't I read that boosters are timing tbd as priority 1 is expanding access to third world countries?

[wazu]

It seems like in every anecdotal tale I hear of COVID hospitalizations, the patient is always male. Whenever I hear about somebody dying of it, same.

[KCUnited]

Originally Posted by wazu

It seems like in every anecdotal tale I hear of COVID hospitalizations, the patient is always male. Whenever I hear about somebody dying of it, same.

It appears to hate the penis

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

The most severe case that I know of (recently) was a 15-year old athlete. This new variant doesn't seem to GAF.

When speaking with my daughter this weekend she said the median age in her Covid Unit is mid 40's and they have 4 people under 30 now using ECMO with a 25 year old put on it this past weekend.

[Kiimo]

I really appreciate this thread and the guys who have stayed in here fighting the good fight against disinformation and general dumbassery.

The idea that in August 2021 you still have to explain to complete idiots why they should get vaccinated and explain HCQ to someone who talks about propaganda and oligarchy like some kind of Facebook huckster from April '20 well, bless you for having the fortitude.



edit: the Fauci news on upcoming variants just went wide so get ready for more FEARPORN hot takes

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Didn't I read that boosters are timing tbd as priority 1 is expanding access to third world countries?

I think I read that somewhere about Pfizer too

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

I think I read that somewhere about Pfizer too

The WHO has basically said they think countries shouldn't be allowed to do boosters until the rest of the world has had a shot at one.

WHO calls for moratorium on COVID-19 vaccine booster doses https://t.co/4euRlfG6zF pic.twitter.com/XiBWrllH8a

— Reuters (@Reuters) August 4, 2021

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I really appreciate this thread and the guys who have stayed in here fighting the good fight against disinformation and general dumbassery.

The idea that in August 2021 you still have to explain to complete idiots why they should get vaccinated and explain HCQ to someone who talks about propaganda and oligarchy like some kind of Facebook huckster from April '20 well, bless you for having the fortitude.



edit: the Fauci news on upcoming variants just went wide so get ready for more FEARPORN hot takes

What did fauci say?

[Sure-Oz]

Originally Posted by DaFace

The WHO has basically said they think countries shouldn't be allowed to do boosters until the rest of the world has had a shot at one.

WHO calls for moratorium on COVID-19 vaccine booster doses https://t.co/4euRlfG6zF pic.twitter.com/XiBWrllH8a

— Reuters (@Reuters) August 4, 2021

Ok that's what I saw. Obviously didn't read anything but the tweet.

[NotDonger]

Israel is already administering a Pfizer booster to those over 60:

https://www.jpost.com/health-science...sses-on-675834

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

When speaking with my daughter this weekend she said the median age in her Covid Unit is mid 40's and they have 4 people under 30 now using ECMO with a 25 year old put on it this past weekend.

I don't envy staff that have to work in those units and having to do it for as long as they have nurse/doctors must be burning out at a record pace.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz

What did fauci say?

Dr. Fauci: If community spread doesn’t get under control, U.S. “may sooner or later get another variant.” https://t.co/3YDxeaU7KG pic.twitter.com/snj0tDJ4H2

— ABC News (@ABC) August 5, 2021

He's trying to emphasize the importance of getting vaccinated so that we lower the risk of more variants, which is true. I can't help but wonder if we'd be better off with a new spokesman, though. I have nothing major against the guy, but there's no question that he tends to drift toward worst-case scenarios (because he's right), and that just makes people shut down.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I really appreciate this thread and the guys who have stayed in here fighting the good fight against disinformation and general dumbassery.

The idea that in August 2021 you still have to explain to complete idiots why they should get vaccinated and explain HCQ to someone who talks about propaganda and oligarchy like some kind of Facebook huckster from April '20 well, bless you for having the fortitude.



edit: the Fauci news on upcoming variants just went wide so get ready for more FEARPORN hot takes

A lot of folks appear to have an irrational fear of being "wrong."

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Dr. Fauci: If community spread doesn’t get under control, U.S. “may sooner or later get another variant.” https://t.co/3YDxeaU7KG pic.twitter.com/snj0tDJ4H2

— ABC News (@ABC) August 5, 2021

He's trying to emphasize the importance of getting vaccinated so that we lower the risk of more variants, which is true. I can't help but wonder if we'd be better off with a new spokesman, though. I have nothing major against the guy, but there's no question that he tends to drift toward worst-case scenarios (because he's right), and that just makes people shut down.

It is very hard to find the line between expressing enough concern to have people take it seriously and sounding like the sky is falling in a political environment , if you talked to him in private he would probably express even more concern.

[RaidersOftheCellar]

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi

I really appreciate this thread and the guys who have stayed in here fighting the good fight against disinformation and general dumbassery.

The idea that in August 2021 you still have to explain to complete idiots why they should get vaccinated and explain HCQ to someone who talks about propaganda and oligarchy like some kind of Facebook huckster from April '20 well, bless you for having the fortitude.



edit: the Fauci news on upcoming variants just went wide so get ready for more FEARPORN hot takes

As I've said...say what you want about me, but there are plenty of prominent people with (going out on a limb here) far more expertise than you who echo the same thoughts.