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05-23-2010, 11:01 PM | #5491 |
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This is the best explanation I've seen...
We all have our mixed opinions now on what the island was, is and what this ending was about. The island was real. Yes Jack died right then and there on the ground in the bamboo next to Vincent. And Ben, Hurley and the rest of the Losties that remained on the island, stayed there until they passed hence Ben and Hurley calling each other good #1’s and #2’s. And Kate, Sawyer and the Losties that left the island on the plane lived out their lives until they died (or perhaps the plane didn’t make it and they died in a crash...only Damon and Carlton know). The alternate timeline was purgatory and the church was the pearly gates. When you die, time ceases to exist. Everyone in the alternate timeline died at some point. It does not matter when, because time is not a factor. Time is a concept made up by human beings. When you die, not only will you be in an afterlife with your ancestors, but also your children, your grandchildren, even your great-great-great-great-great grandchildren. As soon as you die time ceases to exist. This was the biggest event in each one of their lives and it meant so much to them so God wanted them to enter Heaven together as one. To elaborate a little more (in my own words)... In heaven, the great beyond, the next life, however your religion may perceive it, there is no such thing as time. LOST was basically the story of how Jack Shepard got to this great beyond. If it would have been the story of how Shannon got to the afterlife, we would have saw her story up to her getting shot, then we would have seen her arrival at the church with everybody (including Jack) already being there. If it would have been the story of Sawyer, we would have saw all the events up to him dying as an old man, getting hit by a bus, having a heart attack on the mainland. And in the alternate timeline, he would then show up at the church.....and of course everyone would already be there. You just have to tell your mind to let go of events happening in a certain order or timeline.
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05-23-2010, 11:31 PM | #5492 |
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Two questions:
1.) Why did the show -- a largely premise-driven show despite its ending -- focus so much on sci-fi and fantasy storytelling only to give the audience that watched for those bits nothing but dozens of red herrings, MacGuffins and abandoned threads? 2.) The ending clearly wants to showcase the show as a character-driven one, that it is about the characters much more than it is about anything else. Does that hold up? Were the characters good enough to be the focus of the show? |
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05-23-2010, 11:37 PM | #5493 |
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I don't know. That court outfit she had on a couple years back when she lost Aaron in the supermarket was pretty damn nice.
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05-23-2010, 11:50 PM | #5494 |
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I've seen it as a character-driven show from the start. The "mysteries of the island" were fun little side-tracks to lose some time bullshitting about, but in the end it's always been about the cast. Hard not to be when they spend so much time filling in backstory and developing post-crash relationships (romantic and otherwise).
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05-24-2010, 12:37 AM | #5497 |
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If the island wasn't real, then why would Jack have only these people at his funeral? It had to be real to some point, especially since they were able to get rescued from it once.
I want to know WHY the island was sunk at the beginning of season 6. |
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05-24-2010, 12:45 AM | #5498 |
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Interesting, nonetheless. This story seems to me, to basically be about redemption for Jack... the arc of his life, his struggles, his choices... and inevitably finds that We Live Together... Die Together. Not alone.
All of the rest of it is filler. Jack fulfilled his "duty" whether it was real or imagined... it was a test, and he passed. |
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That one still bugs me as well. was it just to show one of the many possible endings or was it to indicate that the blast actually did blow up the island in the " now perceived" alternate timeline.
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I thought the episode was fantastic and a fitting end to the series. I guess I don't understand why people are having a hard time with it, seems pretty clear to me.
I do have to admit that something must have gotten in my eye during the Charlie and Claire "remembering." |
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05-24-2010, 01:11 AM | #5502 |
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They should have ended it with a close-up into Vincent's eyes with a reflection of the plane overhead.
And,then he barks.... That would have been more interesting.
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Everyone that's posted saw a different finale than I did.
JACK WAS JACOB. The ENTIRE series was in Jack's mind. Jack touched Rose. And Locke. And Desmond. And so on. Jack's father died. Jack was dead. On the island. He wasn't saved by the island and there was no "purgatory". Everything happened in the split second that flight 815 crashed. THAT is why there is no explanation for the crash, EMT, Smoke Monster, etc. It was all in the mind of Jack, just before he died. They all died. It was Jack's fantasy. |
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