**** OFFICIAL 2012-2013 Kansas Basketball Repository Thread ****

[ArrowheadHawk]

#1 Seed South Region (31-5,14-4,5-0)

Roster

Spoiler!

1 Naadir Tharpe Guard 5-11 170 So.
2 Rio Adams Guard 6-3 190 Fr.
3 Andrew White III Guard 6-6 210 Fr.
4 Justin Wesley Forward 6-9 220 RS Jr.
5 Jeff Withey Center 7-0 235 RS Sr.
10 Evan Manning Guard 6-3 170 Fr.
11 Tyler Self Guard 6-2 165 Fr.
15 Elijah Johnson Guard 6-4 195 Sr.
20 Niko Roberts Guard 5-11 175 Jr.
21 Christian Garrett Guard 6-3 185 So.
23 Ben McLemore Guard 6-5 195 RS Fr.
24 Travis Releford Guard 6-6 210 RS Sr.
31 Jamari Traylor Forward 6-8 220 RS Fr.
32 Zach Peters Forward 6-9 240 Fr.
33 Landen Lucas Forward 6-10 240 Fr.
34 Perry Ellis Forward 6-8 225 Fr.
40 Kevin Young Forward 6-8 190 Sr.

Non-Con Schedule

Spoiler!

Fri, Nov. 9 SE Missouri State at Kansas (W 74-55)
Tue, Nov. 13 Michigan St. at Kansas Atlanta, Ga. (L 64-67)
Thu, Nov. 15 UTC at Kansas (W 69-55)
Mon, Nov. 19 Washington State at Kansas Sprint Center (W 78-41)
Tue, Nov. 20 St. Louis at Kansas Sprint Center (W 73-59)
Mon, Nov. 26 SJSU at Kansas (W 70-57)
Fri, Nov. 30 Oregon State at Kansas (W 84-78)
Sat, Dec. 8 Colorado at Kansas (W 90-54)
Sat, Dec. 15 Belmont at Kansas (W 89-60)
Tue, Dec. 18 Richmond at Kansas (W 87-59)
Sat, Dec. 22 Kansas at Ohio St. (W 74-66)
Sat, Dec. 29 American at Kansas (W 89-57)
Sun, Jan. 6 Temple at Kansas (W 69-62)

Conference Schedule

Spoiler!

Wed, Jan. 9 Iowa State at Kansas (W 97-89 )
Sat, Jan. 12 Kansas at TT (W 60-46)
Mon, Jan. 14 Baylor at Kansas (W 61-44)
Sat, Jan. 19 Kansas at Texas (W 64-59)
Tue, Jan. 22 Kansas at Kansas State (W 59-55)
Sat, Jan. 26 Oklahoma at Kansas (W 67-54)
Mon, Jan. 28 Kansas at West Virginia (W 61-56)
Sat, Feb. 2 Okla. St. at Kansas (L 80-85)
Wed, Feb. 6 Kansas at TCU (L 55-62)
Sat, Feb. 9 Kansas at Oklahoma (L 66-72)
Mon, Feb. 11 Kansas State at Kansas (W 83-62)
Sat, Feb. 16 Texas at Kansas (W 73-47)
Wed, Feb. 20 Kansas at Okla. St. (W 68-67)
Sat, Feb. 23 TCU at Kansas (W 74-48)
Mon, Feb. 25 Kansas at Iowa State (W 108-96)
Sat, March 2 West Virginia at Kansas (W 91-65)
Mon, March 4 TT at Kansas (W 79-42)
Sat, March 9 Kansas at Baylor (L 58-81)

Post Season
Thu, March 14 TT at Kansas (W 91-63)
Fri, March 15 Iowa State at Kansas (W 88-73)
Sat, March 15 Kansas State at Kansas (W 70-54)
Fri, March 22 (16)Western Kentucky vs (1)Kansas (W 64-57)
Sun, March 24 (8)UNC vs (1)Kansas (W 70-58)
Fri, March 29 (4)Michigan at (1)Kansas Cowboys Stadium, Arlington, TX 6:37PM

[sedated]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Selection Sunday guys! What I've been reading so far says don't be surprised if the dumbass committee puts us as a 2 seed and let's UK into the tournament for money making purposes. I hope not. They would be stealing a bid that some other team deserves.

I prefer Kuntucky in the tournament - gets us closer in all time wins than if they make a run in the NIT.

[Mr_Tomahawk]

KU’s dominance isn’t the best thing for the Big 12
March 16
BY SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star

The old joke that the Big 12 is Kansas and nine other schools in football and men’s basketball isn’t so funny anymore. Not when it comes to basketball, anyway.

The Kansas Jayhawks celebrated another Big 12 tournament championship Saturday night by beating rival Kansas State, 70-54. Head Coach Bill Self talks to the media about the need for a strong Big 12 conference and KU's being a possible number 1 seed in the NCAA tournament. Video by: Allison Long (03-16-13)

KU’s run of dominance has long passed the point of being historical, and it remains one of the incredible stories of both college basketball and Kansas City sports over the last decade. The Jayhawks own basketball in this league like they’re charging rent, and if there was any doubt, they just beat co-regular season champion K-State for a third time — 70-54 for the conference tournament championship at Sprint Center on Saturday.

K-State won its first regular-season conference title in 36 years, and that’s a terrific accomplishment. They’ll put this on a banner at Bramlage Coliseum. But in other places, this will be another team that couldn’t beat Kansas — the last two losses by a combined 37 points.

“Oh, there’s no doubt,” K-State coach Bruce Weber said when asked about the importance of beating KU. “It’s a big rivalry, but it’s not a rivalry until we make it a rivalry. And that means beat them somewhere.”

Weber said those words from the interview room at Sprint Center, and coincidentally, in the middle of the answer came a roar from the other side of the wall. It was the KU basketball team, celebrating, again. A fact: there have been more presidential elections (five) since 1994 than K-State wins over KU (three).

The numbers are preposterous. KU has now won 47 of the last 50 against K-State. The losses are so rare they stand out naturally: Jacob Pullen’s 38 points in 2011, Michael Beasley backing up his bizarre prediction that K-State could beat KU in “Africa” in 2008, and K-State breaking KU’s 55-game home-court winning streak in 2005.

Other than that, nothing. KU’s wins over K-State come so often they should be shown in syndication.

And while this is obviously a point of pride for Kansas — KU senior Travis Releford talked of especially wanting to beat K-State — it’s also bad for the program. Honest. Take it from Jayhawks coach Bill Self.

“We need (K-State) to be good because that brings interest,” he said. “I’ve said this many times: even when Missouri was in our league, it helped us when K-State and Missouri were both good because it raised our level. We want our league to be great. We want our league to be like the Big Ten was this year. Because it raises everybody else’s level.”

We are obviously dealing with small sample sizes here, but when KU won the national title in 2008 it was the No. 2 seed in the conference tournament after losing at Texas. And when the Jayhawks went to the final game last year, they were pushed by Missouri (KU won the league by two games, but split two classics against the Tigers during the regular season). The 1997 team won the league by four games and could’ve been one of the modern era’s great teams but lost to Arizona in the Sweet 16.

This isn’t a rule without exceptions, of course, but it is one that coaches feel applies more times than not. So those Little Brother chants are historically accurate, but the big picture for both KU and the Big 12 would be better in a more balanced world.

In other words, basketball in the new Big 12 has an opening for a program that can knock KU off this pedestal. Mizzou is gone, Texas is bad, Oklahoma State isn’t there quite yet, and K-State appears to have a mental block against its natural rival.

This isn’t just about a sparring partner for KU, either. Perception matters in college basketball. It matters for recruiting, for donations, for rankings, and for NCAA Tournament seeds.

And the perception is that other than KU, Big 12 basketball stinks. That’s largely a myth created by KU’s dominance. The league was mediocre this year, but in the five previous seasons it ranked third, third, first, third and second among all conferences in RPI. Between five and seven teams made the NCAA Tournament each of those seasons.

Over the last nine years, only the ACC (.631) has a higher winning percentage than the Big 12 (.608) in the NCAA Tournament. And only the ACC (77-45) and Big East (100-67) have more wins.

But that’s not the way it’s often seen nationally, or by some recruits. That line about the league being Kansas and nine other schools has a way of sticking. It wasn’t like that when Texas made the Final Four, or Oklahoma. And it won’t be like in the future, if Weber can push K-State, or Texas rebounds, or Oklahoma State continues to rise.

Until then, the league will be seen by many as something less than it is. By extension, the accomplishments of any school inside the league carry less weight. KU’s dominance is a remarkable story, but it’d be better for the Big 12 if a serious contender emerged.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/03/16...#storylink=cpy

[Mr_Tomahawk]

So basically we need someone like UK, Duke, or UNC in our conference. :-)

#BLUEBLOODS

[Chiefs Pantalones]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

KU’s dominance isn’t the best thing for the Big 12
March 16
BY SAM MELLINGER
The Kansas City Star

The old joke that the Big 12 is Kansas and nine other schools in football and men’s basketball isn’t so funny anymore. Not when it comes to basketball, anyway.

The Kansas Jayhawks celebrated another Big 12 tournament championship Saturday night by beating rival Kansas State, 70-54. Head Coach Bill Self talks to the media about the need for a strong Big 12 conference and KU's being a possible number 1 seed in the NCAA tournament. Video by: Allison Long (03-16-13)

KU’s run of dominance has long passed the point of being historical, and it remains one of the incredible stories of both college basketball and Kansas City sports over the last decade. The Jayhawks own basketball in this league like they’re charging rent, and if there was any doubt, they just beat co-regular season champion K-State for a third time — 70-54 for the conference tournament championship at Sprint Center on Saturday.

K-State won its first regular-season conference title in 36 years, and that’s a terrific accomplishment. They’ll put this on a banner at Bramlage Coliseum. But in other places, this will be another team that couldn’t beat Kansas — the last two losses by a combined 37 points.

“Oh, there’s no doubt,” K-State coach Bruce Weber said when asked about the importance of beating KU. “It’s a big rivalry, but it’s not a rivalry until we make it a rivalry. And that means beat them somewhere.”

Weber said those words from the interview room at Sprint Center, and coincidentally, in the middle of the answer came a roar from the other side of the wall. It was the KU basketball team, celebrating, again. A fact: there have been more presidential elections (five) since 1994 than K-State wins over KU (three).

The numbers are preposterous. KU has now won 47 of the last 50 against K-State. The losses are so rare they stand out naturally: Jacob Pullen’s 38 points in 2011, Michael Beasley backing up his bizarre prediction that K-State could beat KU in “Africa” in 2008, and K-State breaking KU’s 55-game home-court winning streak in 2005.

Other than that, nothing. KU’s wins over K-State come so often they should be shown in syndication.

And while this is obviously a point of pride for Kansas — KU senior Travis Releford talked of especially wanting to beat K-State — it’s also bad for the program. Honest. Take it from Jayhawks coach Bill Self.

“We need (K-State) to be good because that brings interest,” he said. “I’ve said this many times: even when Missouri was in our league, it helped us when K-State and Missouri were both good because it raised our level. We want our league to be great. We want our league to be like the Big Ten was this year. Because it raises everybody else’s level.”

We are obviously dealing with small sample sizes here, but when KU won the national title in 2008 it was the No. 2 seed in the conference tournament after losing at Texas. And when the Jayhawks went to the final game last year, they were pushed by Missouri (KU won the league by two games, but split two classics against the Tigers during the regular season). The 1997 team won the league by four games and could’ve been one of the modern era’s great teams but lost to Arizona in the Sweet 16.

This isn’t a rule without exceptions, of course, but it is one that coaches feel applies more times than not. So those Little Brother chants are historically accurate, but the big picture for both KU and the Big 12 would be better in a more balanced world.

In other words, basketball in the new Big 12 has an opening for a program that can knock KU off this pedestal. Mizzou is gone, Texas is bad, Oklahoma State isn’t there quite yet, and K-State appears to have a mental block against its natural rival.

This isn’t just about a sparring partner for KU, either. Perception matters in college basketball. It matters for recruiting, for donations, for rankings, and for NCAA Tournament seeds.

And the perception is that other than KU, Big 12 basketball stinks. That’s largely a myth created by KU’s dominance. The league was mediocre this year, but in the five previous seasons it ranked third, third, first, third and second among all conferences in RPI. Between five and seven teams made the NCAA Tournament each of those seasons.

Over the last nine years, only the ACC (.631) has a higher winning percentage than the Big 12 (.608) in the NCAA Tournament. And only the ACC (77-45) and Big East (100-67) have more wins.

But that’s not the way it’s often seen nationally, or by some recruits. That line about the league being Kansas and nine other schools has a way of sticking. It wasn’t like that when Texas made the Final Four, or Oklahoma. And it won’t be like in the future, if Weber can push K-State, or Texas rebounds, or Oklahoma State continues to rise.

Until then, the league will be seen by many as something less than it is. By extension, the accomplishments of any school inside the league carry less weight. KU’s dominance is a remarkable story, but it’d be better for the Big 12 if a serious contender emerged.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2013/03/16...#storylink=cpy

Never would happen but I've always wanted KU, Duke, UNC and UK in the same conference. Don't care which one (maybe put like two teams of each of the Blue Bloods' previous conference in to even the number of teams out) but put the Blue Bloods in the same conference. It would be a BLAST. We don't really have a real rival, never have. The best programs playing each other in conference play would be awesome. Oh to dream...

[DJay23]

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Never would happen but I've always wanted KU, Duke, UNC and UK in the same conference. Don't care which one (maybe put like two teams of each of the Blue Bloods' previous conference in to even the number of teams out) but put the Blue Bloods in the same conference. It would be a BLAST. We don't really have a real rival, never have. The best programs playing each other in conference play would be awesome. Oh to dream...

I like what the Champions Classic has done in bringing together sort of a round robin blue blood tournament, but only 4 teams over 3 years. I'd like to see them expand it and make it an every year thing. Sort of like a Champions League of College Basketball. You could get the conference champs from each Power 6 conference plus maybe 2 more Wild Cards and do an early season tournament. Play it at JerryWorld or someplace like (even though I hate basketball in football stadiums) with a big stage.

[Mr. Laz]

[Ceej]

Personally, I would be livid if UK made the tournament.

[Braincase]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

So basically we need someone like UK, Duke, or UNC in our conference. :-)

#BLUEBLOODS

Are we supposed to get worse, or is it everyone else's responsibility to get better?

On a different note, I went to high school and worked at the Salina Journal with Tim Fitzgerald of Powercat Illustrated. Guess he couldn't handle the ribbing from me, so he just blocked me on twitter. I thought he was a little more thickskinned than that. Guess I was wrong.

[ROYC75]

Originally Posted by sedated

I prefer Kuntucky in the tournament - gets us closer in all time wins than if they make a run in the NIT.

They do not deserve it, but the possibility of a one and done, a loss and no more wins is intriguing.

[Bearcat]

We are obviously dealing with small sample sizes here, but when KU won the national title in 2008 it was the No. 2 seed in the conference tournament after losing at Texas. And when the Jayhawks went to the final game last year, they were pushed by Missouri (KU won the league by two games, but split two classics against the Tigers during the regular season). The 1997 team won the league by four games and could’ve been one of the modern era’s great teams but lost to Arizona in the Sweet 16.

Didn't have to go back that far to make that point... they won the conference by 4 games in 09-10, too.

[ROYC75]

BTW guys, way to root our team on yesterday! I was under the weather so to speak, 1st time I have been that sick in 15 years. I was so out of it the night before, lack of sleep when I vomited the wife gave me a phenergan and that sucker put me to sleep, missed the whole game. I woke up a couple of times momentarily, we was up both times and that is all I can recall.

[Lzen]

Originally Posted by CJizzles

Personally, I would be livid if UK made the tournament.

I would love to see them miss the tournament. But I guess sedated's point makes it a little more bearable if they do make it. They certainly don't deserve it this year.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Braincase

Are we supposed to get worse, or is it everyone else's responsibility to get better?

On a different note, I went to high school and worked at the Salina Journal with Tim Fitzgerald of Powercat Illustrated. Guess he couldn't handle the ribbing from me, so he just blocked me on twitter. I thought he was a little more thickskinned than that. Guess I was wrong.

'Cats are still licking their wounds.

[Old Dog]

Grats on the win last night fellas. I wish you all the best in the big one and hope ya'll get a #1 seed (you should IMO)

I didn't see any of it due to one of the biggest brain farts in the history of ever, so I can't bitch about anything and I'm just going to assume we were outplayed by the better team.
Had tickets seven rows up and was 100% sure that the game started at 6pm and never even took them out of the envelope....tuned in to listen to pregame on the way up there and it was already well underway so we said to hell with it and went to dinner with the Mrs.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by Old Dog

Grats on the win last night fellas. I wish you all the best in the big one and hope ya'll get a #1 seed (you should IMO)

I didn't see any of it due to one of the biggest brain farts in the history of ever, so I can't bitch about anything and I'm just going to assume we were outplayed by the better team.
Had tickets seven rows up and was 100% sure that the game started at 6pm and never even took them out of the envelope....tuned in to listen to pregame on the way up there and it was already well underway so we said to hell with it and went to dinner with the Mrs.

That's brutal. You didn't miss much if you were a 'Cats fan last night.