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Discussion: All things Broncos.

Pitt Gorilla · 11-30-2022, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by DomCasual

Like I said, I am not going to try and defend Russell Wilson. But in fairness, that trade was roundly applauded by almost everyone when it happened.

Actually, many folks, including several of us on here, thought it was an insanely stupid deal, mainly because:

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Originally Posted by DomCasual

he was also on a Hall of Fame path, prior to this year.

THAT hasn't been true for 2+ seasons now. Carroll took a lot of heat for his coaching, but it was pretty clear to just about anyone who actually watches football that Pete was covering for fat rus' declining abilities and obvious deficiencies.

Pitt Gorilla · 11-30-2022, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051

L’Jarius Sneed PFF Grade: 86.5
Patrick Surtain II PFF Grade: 78.8

You’ve quoted PFF scores a lot. Care to comment on this one?

Is the higher number better? Which player has the higher number? Who does he play for?

Didn’t you call Surtain the best corner in the league?

I don't think there's any question that Sneed is better. The real question is whether or not McDuffie is actually better than Surtain. That one might get interesting.

RaidersOftheCellar · 11-30-2022, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

So you traded 2 firsts, 2 seconds, and players AND paid a quarter of a billion dollars...

For Alex Smith.

Alex Smith? He won 11 games/year with mostly weak defenses. He was a damn wizard by comparison.

RaidersOftheCellar · 11-30-2022, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

Actually, many folks, including several of us on here, thought it was an insanely stupid deal, mainly because:

THAT hasn't been true for 2+ seasons now. Carroll took a lot of heat for his coaching, but it was pretty clear to just about anyone who actually watches football that Pete was covering for fat rus' declining abilities and obvious deficiencies.

I think Wilson's won 9 of his last 25 games now. And half of those were won by the defense.

Wilson's always been way overrated, but now that he can't run and doesn't have coaches who can mask his deficiencies, this is what you get.

MagicHef · 11-30-2022, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Does it tell you anything that the offense he left is now #1 in the NFL in points per play? With a journeyman QB?

I mean, seriously...how much more obvious can it get?

Seahawks had a higher points per play in Wilson's last full season than they do this year.

**Easy 6** · 11-30-2022, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Seahawks had a higher points per play in Wilson's last full season than they do this year.

Hef, baby... you're too smart to be doing this

MagicHef · 11-30-2022, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6

Hef, baby... you're too smart to be doing this

Sure, but it is fun.

tredadda · 11-30-2022, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe

Injuries have caught up to us. It’s hard to make a push when your top 3 RB’s, both starting tackles, starting center and 3 of your top 4 WR’s can’t play.

Buffalo also has a ton of injuries and yet the still have three losses. The LAC wrote the book on injuries and still they have more wins than Mr. Unlimited and his “loaded” Top 5 roster.

Coochie liquor · 11-30-2022, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order

Surtain got roasted against the Panthers.

The ****ing Panthers.

They went after him, many times. Like Adams said, he’s not there yet.

RaidersOftheCellar · 11-30-2022, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Seahawks had a higher points per play in Wilson's last full season than they do this year.

Actually, they didn't. And down the stretch, the numbers were garbage (after defenses adjusted).

Geno MFing Smith has a higher points per play than any of Wilson's Seattle teams.

RaidersOftheCellar · 11-30-2022, 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Buffalo also has a ton of injuries and yet the still have three losses. The LAC wrote the book on injuries and still they have more wins than Mr. Unlimited and his “loaded” Top 5 roster.

Don't listen to the Buffalo homer. They're near the bottom in games missed due to injury.

LAC, yes. That's what happens when a really good roster gets decimated. They're still pretty good.

tredadda · 11-30-2022, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Don't listen to the Buffalo homer. They're near the bottom in games missed due to injury.

LAC, yes. That's what happens when a really good roster gets decimated. They're still pretty good.

Yeah, good point.

RaidersOftheCellar · 11-30-2022, 04:34 PM

Has there been anything less rewarding over the last 7 years than being a Broncos apologist? Damn. Somebody's going to give Q Joe a Broncos coat for Christmas and he's going to burst into tears.

MagicHef · 11-30-2022, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RaidersOftheCellar

Actually, they didn't. And down the stretch, the numbers were garbage (after defenses adjusted).

Geno MFing Smith has a higher points per play than any of Wilson's Seattle teams.

2020 Seahawks with Wilson scored 459 points in 1022 plays, good for 0.449 points per play. Geno’s Seahawks are scoring 0.447 points per play.

Pasta Little Brioni · 11-30-2022, 05:28 PM

McDuffie looks better than Surtain. We know Sneed is better, but could we have 2 CBs better than him? Knowmo?

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