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**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-25-2013, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Wrong? About the defense, hell yes. I was definitely wrong.

I predicted the Chiefs to go 7-9 before the season started. The offense has basically been what I expected, if actually a little worse. Alex Smith has played to expectations.

The only thing I thought would happen that hasn't so far is that he'd be less efficient with the ball throwing more often. Some of that is masked by 2-3 dropped INTs. Some of it shows up in a lowered completion percentage.

What was not expected was the Chiefs defense morphing into the best unit in the NFL (so far). Part of that has to deal with improved QB and offensive play and no TOs. A bigger part (I'd argue) of it has to do with improvements by key guys (Poe, Berry, Houston).

Since the AS guys always want to play the "what if" game...

I wonder how many people would still be coocoo for cocoa puffs over Alex if those sure INT's had been made?

Everyone keeps saying he's playing mistake free football, and he hasn't.

Those are huge mistakes - he's been fortunate to get away with each of them.

I doubt people would be as excited over 4 TDs and 3 INTs - two of which would have been pick-sixes.

But hey, he's on pace for ZERO INT's, so there's that.

**Bearcat** · 09-25-2013, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

Wrong? About the defense, hell yes. I was definitely wrong.

I predicted the Chiefs to go 7-9 before the season started. The offense has basically been what I expected, if actually a little worse. Alex Smith has played to expectations.

The only thing I thought would happen that hasn't so far is that he'd be less efficient with the ball throwing more often. Some of that is masked by 2-3 dropped INTs. Some of it shows up in a lowered completion percentage.

What was not expected was the Chiefs defense morphing into the best unit in the NFL (so far). Part of that has to deal with improved QB and offensive play and no TOs. A bigger part (I'd argue) of it has to do with improvements by key guys (Poe, Berry, Houston).

No need, we ran him off due to our absolute hatred of Alex Smith, the Chiefs, and life in general.

BigCatDaddy · 09-25-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

Like I said. You brought a plastic spoon to a gun fight.

You weren't ready for this fight dude. Go back to playing GTAV

This conversation is way over your head.......

You had clown shoes put on you in this thread.

Go watch some porn, take a nap, and try again later.

JENKINSWINS · 09-25-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Since the AS guys always want to play the "what if" game...

I wonder how many people would still be coocoo for cocoa puffs over Alex if those sure INT's had been made?

Everyone keeps saying he's playing mistake free football, and he hasn't.

Those are huge mistakes - he's been fortunate to get away with each of them.

I doubt people would be as excited over 4 TDs and 3 INTs - two of which would have been pick-sixes.

But hey, he's on pace for ZERO INT's, so there's that.

What if...

he has to score more than 24?
has to play playoff caliber team?
the defense wasn't as good as it is?
he's down 3 scores?
the oline sucks? (you guys think he has all day)

Now who's playing that game again?

Marcellus · 09-25-2013, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Since the AS guys always want to play the "what if" game...

I wonder how many people would still be coocoo for cocoa puffs over Alex if those sure INT's had been made?

Everyone keeps saying he's playing mistake free football, and he hasn't.

Those are huge mistakes - he's been fortunate to get away with each of them.

I doubt people would be as excited over 4 TDs and 3 INTs - two of which would have been pick-sixes.

But hey, he's on pace for ZERO INT's, so there's that.

Because every QB doesn't don't get away with dropped INT's?

I can only think of 1 pass that should have been intercepted and it was in the Dallas game. And the belief he doesnt turn the ball over is not based off 3 games this season. Its based on the last 31 starts of his career.

On the other note about 24 points per game, I know the defense is responsible for some of it and some of it is FG's. Its 24 points a game on average over a 31 game sample size.

Yes we have to this point a well above average defense and we should be only giving up 13 or so points a game avg or less by the end of the year.

I will take 24 points scored and 13 points given up on average every single day of the week and 2x on Sunday.

And yes, we do need more offensive output.

Nobody is claiming Alex Smith is a world beater. Nobody has called him elite that I am aware of though there may be one or 2 people.

My claim has been all along he is good enough to win and to win in the playoffs. And yes I know and acknowledge he needs a good defense which I have contended the entire team that we should have exactly that.

I also have contended all along thats why we traded for him, to win now.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-25-2013, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ViperVisor

You don't think the play-calling is affected by the unreliable performance up front?

Short passes and dumpoffs in place of runs.

Jamal Charles avg on his 1st 10 rushes of a game? 3.1

Who is going to fall for play action when we haven't tried to establish the run?

Marcellus · 09-25-2013, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Who is going to fall for play action when we haven't tried to establish the run?

IMO the lack of attempt to run the ball with any real seriousness until the 4th quarter is as big an issue as anything with the offense.

I don't expect Reid to change though.

**The Bad Guy** · 09-25-2013, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Who is going to fall for play action when we haven't tried to establish the run?

Jamaal Charles reputation and past performances will force the defense to react on playaction regardless.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-25-2013, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

Because every QB doesn't don't get away with dropped INT's?

I can only think of 1 pass that should have been intercepted and it was in the Dallas game. And the belief he doesnt turn the ball over is not based off 3 games this season. Its based on the last 31 starts of his career.

On the other note about 24 points per game, I know the defense is responsible for some of it and some of it is FG's. Its 24 points a game on average over a 31 game sample size.

Yes we have to this point a well above average defense and we should be only giving up 13 or so points a game avg or less by the end of the year.

I will take 24 points scored and 13 points given up on average every single day of the week and 2x on Sunday.

And yes, we do need more offensive output.

Nobody is claiming Alex Smith is a world beater. Nobody has called him elite that I am aware of though there may be one or 2 people.

My claim has been all along he is good enough to win and to win in the playoffs. And yes I know and acknowledge he needs a good defense which I have contended the entire team that we should have exactly that.

I also have contended all along thats why we traded for him, to win now.

Agree with pretty much everything but the bold.

Connor Barwin dropped a sure pick-6 in the Philly game, IIRC another was dropped early in the Jax game.

When the response to any rational post is "3-0", then I have to disagree with you.

He's good enough to win in the regular season - not sure anyone ever doubted that. Several of us doubt he can win with this "play not to lose" mentality against the type of teams you face in the playoffs.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-25-2013, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

Jamaal Charles reputation and past performances will force the defense to react on playaction regardless.

Yeah, except it's not, as evidenced by the last three games.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-25-2013, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus

IMO the lack of attempt to run the ball with any real seriousness until the 4th quarter is as big an issue as anything with the offense.

I don't expect Reid to change though.

Agree with your first comment, sadly agree with your second.

JENKINSWINS · 09-25-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Agree with pretty much everything but the bold.

Connor Barwin dropped a sure pick-6 in the Philly game, IIRC another was dropped early in the Jax game.

When the response to any rational post is "3-0", then I have to disagree with you.

He's good enough to win in the regular season - not sure anyone ever doubted that. Several of us doubt he can win with this "play not to lose" mentality against the type of teams you face in the playoffs.

So if he goes out and starts chucking it all over the field in tight coverage, throws a couple of picks and loses in the playoffs, you're ok with that? Deviating from what was winning games in the regular season?

I get what you're saying but playoff games are won and lost in the same fashion as regular season games, IMO.

Sandy Vagina · 09-25-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Since the AS guys always want to play the "what if" game...

I wonder how many people would still be coocoo for cocoa puffs over Alex if those sure INT's had been made?

Everyone keeps saying he's playing mistake free football, and he hasn't.

Those are huge mistakes - he's been fortunate to get away with each of them.

I doubt people would be as excited over 4 TDs and 3 INTs - two of which would have been pick-sixes.

But hey, he's on pace for ZERO INT's, so there's that.

You would still have to add onto other QB's interceptions for their near-misses... so Alex still wins on that. Nice try though.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-25-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mac-NinersChiefs

You would still have to add onto other QB's interceptions for their near-misses... so Alex still wins on that. Nice try though.

Who mentioned other QB's?

You guys really struggle with arguing the point at hand.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-25-2013, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by JENKINSWINS

So if he goes out and starts chucking it all over the field in tight coverage, throws a couple of picks and loses in the playoffs, you're ok with that? Deviating from what was winning games in the regular season?

I get what you're saying but playoff games are won and lost in the same fashion as regular season games, IMO.

Funny, we haven't played an elite team yet this year - but that's exactly what we'll face in the playoffs. You play "not to lose" in the playoffs against an elite QB, and you'll lose.

Maybe we'll get lucky and play the team with the 32nd ranked defense in the WC round.

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