Cardinals Cardinals vs. Chicago at Wrigley Field Weekend Thread - Page 37

**BigRedChief** · 08-08-2008, 06:38 AM

I know you Cubbie fans got a a little thread going and we(who have won 10 WS since you have even been to one) have our own thread but I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread to talk smack about the this weekends series

Cardinals vs. Chicago at Wrigley field

1:20 p.m. today FSN Midwest

Braden Looper
RH
Record 10-9
ERA 4.29

Ted Lilly
LH
Record 11-6
ERA 4.35

2:55 p.m. Saturday KTVI (Ch. 2)

Todd Wellemeyer
RH
Record 8-4
ERA 4.01

Carlos Zambrano
RH
Record 12-4
ERA 2.76

7:10 p.m. Sunday ESPN

Chris Carpenter
RH
Record 0-0
ERA 1.00

RyanDempster
RH
Record 12-5
ERA 2.93

Bad idea? Just let it fall away.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-10-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach

Either way, their defense is "solid" but their bats, such as Itzturdus and Kennedy isn't great.

I actually think it's excellent (defense) and worst in the league (offense). It's exasperating.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-10-2008, 08:43 PM

That'll do it for that abortion.

Congrats Cubs fans.

**Nzoner** · 08-10-2008, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

That'll do it for that abortion.

Congrats Cubs fans.

Thank you

and I would've joined in earlier but I was at a buddy's house watching

**BigRedChief** · 08-10-2008, 09:21 PM

Nice game. Good series. Overall well played by both teams.

Friday night the Cubbies got the hit and we didn't.

Saturday....wellll lets just say it was the Cardinals all the way.

Sunday Our normally sound 2B lets an easy double play ball go between his legs and costs us 4 runs. Difference in the game.

With the way the Cubs have been playing and their 3 starting pitchers home records this year realistically all we could hope for was to take 1 of these at Wrigley.

Good games and congrats on the wins Cub fans.

See ya next time.....

**Nzoner** · 08-10-2008, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Sunday Our normally sound 2B lets an easy double play ball go between his legs and costs us 4 runs. Difference in the game.

Hey now don't forget,the Cubs had some damn good defense

Ultra Peanut · 08-11-2008, 04:04 AM

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Originally Posted by StcChief

my bet is Cards pound the Dumpster tonite. take series and pickup a game.

I'll take that bet!

Ultra Peanut · 08-11-2008, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Fukudome, All Star Starter:

OPS+ 102.

Damn Chinamen.

April .305/.416/.421
May .293/.388/.404
June .264/.387/.402
---
July .236/.306/.382
August .125/.214/.167

He's been, um, kind of frosty for the past month and a half. Clearly, he's in that "adjust to the adjustments" period. He's walked all of three times in the past 10 games.

Coach · 08-11-2008, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ultra Peanut

April .305/.416/.421
May .293/.388/.404
June .264/.387/.402
---
July .236/.306/.382
August .125/.214/.167

He's been, um, kind of frosty for the past month and a half. Clearly, he's in that "adjust to the adjustments" period. He's walked all of three times in the past 10 games.

Yeah, he hasn't been hitting too well. I'd be a bit concerned about him if I were a Cub fan.

Now, I hate to add insult to the injury Card fans, but the Cardinals paid Jim Edmonds a little over $12,000 today to hit two home runs against them.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 08-11-2008, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach

Yeah, he hasn't been hitting too well. I'd be a bit concerned about him if I were a Cub fan.

Now, I hate to add insult to the injury Card fans, but the Cardinals paid Jim Edmonds a little over $12,000 today to hit two home runs against them.

Better than paying him 8 million per to be a clubhouse cancer and a non-producer holding back our young outfield talent.

**BigRedChief** · 08-11-2008, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Better than paying him 8 million per to be a clubhouse cancer and a non-producer holding back our young outfield talent.

Yep, it was time to move on.

**BigRedChief** · 08-11-2008, 09:47 PM

Damn, We still have hope.
Pinero pitches a great game,
Mather goes deep,
Ankiel goes 2 for 3
The home town boy pitches a scoreless inning.
Perez comes in and closes, strikes out 2 out of three batters.

The next 3 games at Florida we have Lohse, Looper and Wellenmeyer starting to go for the sweep.

StcChief · 08-11-2008, 09:59 PM

Congrats to cubs....took 2 of 3 at home. Hope Carp is short stint with strain. Likely miss his next start to be safe (who knows)

**BigRedChief** · 08-12-2008, 07:29 AM

Cardinals starter Chris Carpenter will skip his scheduled between-starts throw today and return to St. Louis to meet with a team doctor about the arm pain that forced him from Sunday's game.

After reporting minimal soreness in his right arm Monday, the righthander said he planned to throw a bullpen session, as scheduled, this afternoon at Dolphin Stadium. Upon further discussion, however, before Carpenter picks up a baseball team officials want Dr. George Paletta to evaluate what has been called a triceps strain.

The decision and the discomfort mean it is doubtful Carpenter will make his next start, set for Friday at Cincinnati.

"We felt, given the history Carpenter has had with George and what's at stake with him being just back from (elbow surgery), this just made the most sense," general manager John Mozeliak said. "Nobody knows Carp better than Carp, but a close second would be Dr. Paletta."
"We want to avoid this becoming a major setback in any way," Mozeliak continued. "Better to be precautionary."

Carpenter threw 66 pitches over 5 1/3 innings against the Chicago Cubs on Sunday night. He felt discomfort in the back of his upper arm as he delivered a fastball to Jim Edmonds. He threw one more pitch, felt the same pain, and then was removed from the game. Carpenter said Monday the pain was localized to the length of his triceps, which runs down the back of the arm to the elbow. But he hesitated to speculate on the cause.

The righthander went through a battery of tests that night at Wrigley Field and again Monday in Miami to gauge a reason for the soreness. Team officials and Carpenter said the tests and exercises performed Sunday and Monday were "encouraging," but not entirely revealing.

"I did a lot of exercises with weights, stretching, all the normal stuff for (the rotator cuff) and it felt fine," Carpenter said. "There are some spots they get me where I can still feel it. ... It's still a little sore."

Carpenter said several times that the pain is not generating from his surgically repaired elbow"My elbow," he insisted, "is fine."

Carpenter will fly to St. Louis this morning and meet with Paletta shortly after his arrival. Paletta's diagnosis will determine a course of action — whether he can return immediately to throwing, whether rest will be prescribed or whether there is something more severe with the arm that could cause an extended absence.

Carpenter returned to the rotation July 30 of this season, and Sunday was his third start since coming off the disabled list. Carpenter called it progress. He said during his 66-pitch outing against the Cubs his "breaking ball got better, like I was hoping, and I could locate fastball. I had more good pitches. It was a step forward."

Until, that is, the fastball to Edmonds.

"We don't want to play a guessing game with what could be wrong," Mozeliak said. "We just want to make sure we're not going backward. He's done so many positive things to get to this point, to get himself back here, that we don't want to risk that. This is a cautionary thing."

**BigRedChief** · 08-12-2008, 07:47 AM

Adam Wainwright continued his climb back toward the majors and his planned late-inning role in the Cardinals' bullpen with an increase in pitches and an improvement in performance Monday.
He threw 48 pitches in Memphis in his three innings for the Cardinals' Class AAA affiliate. The righthander allowed four hits, two runs (both earned) and struck out two and was not involved in the decision in a 3-2 loss to New Orleans.

At pitching coach Dave Duncan's urging, the Cardinals upped Wainwright's pitch count from the planned 25. Duncan said it was "to give him a better chance to work on all of his pitches." In his first rehab start Friday, Wainwright had to throw his curveball at odd counts just to get a few in before he ran out of pitches on his 25 limit.

Of his pitches Monday, 29 were strikes. Seven of the nine outs he collected were groundouts, and he did not have a fly out.

The Cardinals have Wainwright, who made 13 starts before a finger injury put him on the disabled list, on a rehab assignment tailored for a reliever. He is scheduled to throw again Thursday for Memphis, at which time the Cardinals will consider activating him.

**BigRedChief** · 08-13-2008, 06:40 AM

Chris Carpenter will miss his scheduled start Friday for the St. Louis Cardinals after an MRI exam showed a muscle strain in the back of his pitching shoulder.

Carpenter was examined Tuesday in St. Louis and will rejoin his teammates in Florida, where he will receive treatment from the team's medical staff.

The 2005 NL Cy Young Award winner, Carpenter was injured in the sixth inning of Sunday's 6-2 loss at the Chicago Cubs. He was making his third start since Opening Day last year. The right-hander underwent elbow ligament replacement surgery in July 2007.

St. Louis began exploring its options even before Carpenter's test results were in.

Cardinals pitching coach Dave Duncan said Carpenter's replacement would come out of the bullpen, according to multiple media reports. Duncan mentioned Brad Thompson and Jaime Garcia as options. Both pitchers have starting experience and neither pitched in Tuesday's 4-3 loss to the Florida Marlins.

Thompson has made 19 appearances this season, three of which were starts, and is 4-2 with a 4.34 ERA. Garcia, meanwhile, has made six appearance with one start. He is 1-1 with a 3.27 ERA.

08-08-2008, 06:38 AM
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-751038 VARSITY	Cardinals vs. Chicago at Wrigley Field Weekend Thread I know you Cubbie fans got a a little thread going and we(who have won 10 WS since you have even been to one) have our own thread but I thought it would be a good idea to have a thread to talk smack about the this weekends series Cardinals vs. Chicago at Wrigley field 1:20 p.m. today FSN Midwest Braden Looper RH Record 10-9 ERA 4.29 Ted Lilly LH Record 11-6 ERA 4.35 2:55 p.m. Saturday KTVI (Ch. 2) Todd Wellemeyer RH Record 8-4 ERA 4.01 Carlos Zambrano RH Record 12-4 ERA 2.76 7:10 p.m. Sunday ESPN Chris Carpenter RH Record 0-0 ERA 1.00 RyanDempster RH Record 12-5 ERA 2.93 Bad idea? Just let it fall away.
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08-10-2008, 08:43 PM	#542
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08-10-2008, 09:21 PM	#544
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-751038 VARSITY	Nice game. Good series. Overall well played by both teams. Friday night the Cubbies got the hit and we didn't. Saturday....wellll lets just say it was the Cardinals all the way. Sunday Our normally sound 2B lets an easy double play ball go between his legs and costs us 4 runs. Difference in the game. With the way the Cubs have been playing and their 3 starting pitchers home records this year realistically all we could hope for was to take 1 of these at Wrigley. Good games and congrats on the wins Cub fans. See ya next time..... __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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08-11-2008, 09:47 PM	#551
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-751038 VARSITY	Damn, We still have hope. Pinero pitches a great game, Mather goes deep, Ankiel goes 2 for 3 The home town boy pitches a scoreless inning. Perez comes in and closes, strikes out 2 out of three batters. The next 3 games at Florida we have Lohse, Looper and Wellenmeyer starting to go for the sweep. __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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08-11-2008, 09:59 PM	#552
StcChief Playing for #1 Draft Pick Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Just West of Lambs land Casino cash: $10004900	Congrats to cubs....took 2 of 3 at home. Hope Carp is short stint with strain. Likely miss his next start to be safe (who knows) __________________ sig test for this screwy schema
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08-12-2008, 07:29 AM	#553
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-751038 VARSITY	Cardinals starter Chris Carpenter will skip his scheduled between-starts throw today and return to St. Louis to meet with a team doctor about the arm pain that forced him from Sunday's game. After reporting minimal soreness in his right arm Monday, the righthander said he planned to throw a bullpen session, as scheduled, this afternoon at Dolphin Stadium. Upon further discussion, however, before Carpenter picks up a baseball team officials want Dr. George Paletta to evaluate what has been called a triceps strain. The decision and the discomfort mean it is doubtful Carpenter will make his next start, set for Friday at Cincinnati. "We felt, given the history Carpenter has had with George and what's at stake with him being just back from (elbow surgery), this just made the most sense," general manager John Mozeliak said. "Nobody knows Carp better than Carp, but a close second would be Dr. Paletta." "We want to avoid this becoming a major setback in any way," Mozeliak continued. "Better to be precautionary." Carpenter threw 66 pitches over 5 1/3 innings against the Chicago Cubs on Sunday night. He felt discomfort in the back of his upper arm as he delivered a fastball to Jim Edmonds. He threw one more pitch, felt the same pain, and then was removed from the game. Carpenter said Monday the pain was localized to the length of his triceps, which runs down the back of the arm to the elbow. But he hesitated to speculate on the cause. The righthander went through a battery of tests that night at Wrigley Field and again Monday in Miami to gauge a reason for the soreness. Team officials and Carpenter said the tests and exercises performed Sunday and Monday were "encouraging," but not entirely revealing. "I did a lot of exercises with weights, stretching, all the normal stuff for (the rotator cuff) and it felt fine," Carpenter said. "There are some spots they get me where I can still feel it. ... It's still a little sore." Carpenter said several times that the pain is not generating from his surgically repaired elbow"My elbow," he insisted, "is fine." Carpenter will fly to St. Louis this morning and meet with Paletta shortly after his arrival. Paletta's diagnosis will determine a course of action — whether he can return immediately to throwing, whether rest will be prescribed or whether there is something more severe with the arm that could cause an extended absence. Carpenter returned to the rotation July 30 of this season, and Sunday was his third start since coming off the disabled list. Carpenter called it progress. He said during his 66-pitch outing against the Cubs his "breaking ball got better, like I was hoping, and I could locate fastball. I had more good pitches. It was a step forward." Until, that is, the fastball to Edmonds. "We don't want to play a guessing game with what could be wrong," Mozeliak said. "We just want to make sure we're not going backward. He's done so many positive things to get to this point, to get himself back here, that we don't want to risk that. This is a cautionary thing." __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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08-12-2008, 07:47 AM	#554
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-751038 VARSITY	Adam Wainwright continued his climb back toward the majors and his planned late-inning role in the Cardinals' bullpen with an increase in pitches and an improvement in performance Monday. He threw 48 pitches in Memphis in his three innings for the Cardinals' Class AAA affiliate. The righthander allowed four hits, two runs (both earned) and struck out two and was not involved in the decision in a 3-2 loss to New Orleans. At pitching coach Dave Duncan's urging, the Cardinals upped Wainwright's pitch count from the planned 25. Duncan said it was "to give him a better chance to work on all of his pitches." In his first rehab start Friday, Wainwright had to throw his curveball at odd counts just to get a few in before he ran out of pitches on his 25 limit. Of his pitches Monday, 29 were strikes. Seven of the nine outs he collected were groundouts, and he did not have a fly out. The Cardinals have Wainwright, who made 13 starts before a finger injury put him on the disabled list, on a rehab assignment tailored for a reliever. He is scheduled to throw again Thursday for Memphis, at which time the Cardinals will consider activating him. __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
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08-13-2008, 06:40 AM	#555
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $-751038 VARSITY	Chris Carpenter will miss his scheduled start Friday for the St. Louis Cardinals after an MRI exam showed a muscle strain in the back of his pitching shoulder. Carpenter was examined Tuesday in St. Louis and will rejoin his teammates in Florida, where he will receive treatment from the team's medical staff. The 2005 NL Cy Young Award winner, Carpenter was injured in the sixth inning of Sunday's 6-2 loss at the Chicago Cubs. He was making his third start since Opening Day last year. The right-hander underwent elbow ligament replacement surgery in July 2007. St. Louis began exploring its options even before Carpenter's test results were in. Cardinals pitching coach Dave Duncan said Carpenter's replacement would come out of the bullpen, according to multiple media reports. Duncan mentioned Brad Thompson and Jaime Garcia as options. Both pitchers have starting experience and neither pitched in Tuesday's 4-3 loss to the Florida Marlins. Thompson has made 19 appearances this season, three of which were starts, and is 4-2 with a 4.34 ERA. Garcia, meanwhile, has made six appearance with one start. He is 1-1 with a 3.27 ERA. __________________ Mahomes is not a game manager. Release the Kraken.
Posts: 81,321