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DaWolf · 11:47 AM

Figure we might as well have one?

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Coogs · 08-11-2009, 05:44 PM

And the river falls update...

Tuesday, August 11: Afternoon Practice

It was a very hot and sunny afternoon practice, and there were only a few clouds in the distance. It was 81 degrees with the a little breeze every once in awhile at two miles-per-hour towards the south-southwest. The humidity was 40 percent with the dew point at 55.

It was another steamy day at out on the Chiefs practice field. The 15th practice was attended by nearly 100 dedicated fans who, with the help of water and umbrellas, endured through the hot summer sun.

Offense

Running back Jamaal Charles was back to practice today after sitting out the last two days. Inactive for the offense were running back Kolby Smith and offensive linemen Wade Smith and Tavares Washington.

Tackle Branden Albert left practice with a trainer about 20 minutes into the session. Albert would return seven minutes later. During one-on-one blocking drills, Albert was off to the side on a knee.
During the team’s 7-on-7 drill on field 1, quarterback Matt Cassel overthrew wide receiver Mark Bradley in the end zone. Later, in a second-and-six situation, cornerback Ricky Price showed leadership skills when he hollered the situation to his teammates. Quarterback Tyler Thigpen threw a pass to wide receiver Jeff Webb. Price was on the cover, and when he tackled Webb, the ball popped loose. There was speculation about the play being a fumble, but Head Coach Todd Haley didn’t dwell on the play, and the team moved on to the next situation.

The team then moved 7-on-7 to field 2. Quarterback Tyler Thigpen had a good throw to wide receiver Dwayne Bowe. Bowe was able to make the catch between two defensive backs and a linebacker. Later, quarterback Matt Cassel had a completion to wide receiver Terrance Copper. Cornerback Brandon Carr was there to make the quick stop. Carr drove Copper back several yards before the play was whistled dead.

At the sound of the horn, the offense and defense split up between fields 1 and 2. The defense worked on getting off the line of scrimmage, which was represented by a yellow band on the field. The offense worked on a similar drill. During the drill, Head Coach Todd Haley was frustrated with the lack of effort put in by running back Dantrell Savage. “You’re not running, Savage,” Haley yelled multiple times.

When the team was running a drill on the south end of field 1, running back Javarris Williams lost his shoe. He completed the play to the end zone before returning back about 15 yards to pick up his shoe.

Receiver Dwayne Bowe had a rough time catching the ball in traffic today. Once again, the team ran the drill where the coaches were hitting the receivers with hand shields the moment they caught the ball. Bowe was forced to repeat the drill multiple times but was unable to come up with a catch. Wide Receivers Coach Dedric Ward finally had enough and moved on.

Offensive Line Coach Bill Muir was getting frustrated with a group of offensive linemen when they were working on pass blocking against the defensive line. “I am (freaking) tired of you peoples’ (crap)!” Muir said.

While the rest of the offensive and defensive lines were doing one-on-one drills, tackles Cameron Goldberg and Herb Taylor were off doing separate drills matched up against linebackers Vince Redd and Pierre Walters.

Special Teams

Kicker Ryan Succop was perfect during the kicking portion of today’s practice. Succop hit from 36, 37, 40 and 44 yards. The kick from 44 yards was from the left hash; all others were straight on.

Wide receivers Quinten Lawrence and Rodney Wright were responsible for all of the punt returns in today’s practice.

Kicker Ryan Succop worked on his on-side kicks this afternoon. He was struggling getting the ball to carry at least 10 yards early in the drills, but after about 10 minutes he started to get the hang of it and made some very decent kicks.

Defense

Linebacker Zach Thomas and cornerback DaJuan Morgan were the only inactive defensive players during this afternoon’s practice.

Linebacker Demorrio Williams saw his first action this afternoon. Williams had been inactive during training camp thus far after failing Head Coach Todd Haley’s physical and conditioning test. Williams has been working out on different equipment with Chiefs Strength and Conditioning Coach Cedric Smith.

While the rest of the team was running 7-on-7 situations, the defensive and offensive linemen worked one-on-one on blocking. Defensive end Dion Gales and defensive tackle Derek Lokey jumped offsides during the drill and had to run the length of field 1.

During the team’s 11-on-11 drill, Head Coach Todd Haley complimented the defense on their quarterback pressures and would-be sacks. “Good job, D,” he said. “Get rid of the ball, quarterbacks.” Later, quarterback Tyler Thigpen fumbled the snap. Defensive tackle Tank Tyler and running back Jackie Battle wrestled around on the ground for the football. Tyler eventually pried it away from Battle. As Tyler lay on the ground, nodding his head, defensive end Tyson Jackson hollered from the sidelines, “I see you, Tank. I see you, 9-3.”

Defensive end Alfonso Boone knocked down two passes in a row during the team’s 11-on-11 work today. Both passes were attempted by quarterback Matt Cassel. When the second-team offense took the field, defensive end Tyson Jackson was able to get his hand on a Tyler Thigpen pass.

While the team was working on late game defensive situations, Head Coach Todd Haley tricked the defense. After an incomplete pass, Haley turned to the defense with his hands in the form of a “T,” signaling for them to call a timeout. The entire defense immediately erupted in calls for a timeout. Haley then yelled at them for trying to call a timeout after an incompletion.

Defensive ends Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee had a short workout after practice with Defensive Line Coach Tim Krumrie. The defenders worked on their one-on-one blocking skills while getting off of the blocker. It was apparent that the heat was taking its toll on some of the big men today, and both players looked very tired when the workout was completed. After finishing both men walked to the fan section to sign autographs for adoring onlookers.

Todd Haley Press Conference

Head Coach Todd Haley called today “the warmest one-a-day.” Haley mentioned that this finally felt like training camp weather.

A lot of the conference focused around the wide receivers. Haley was a wide receivers coach before he became the offensive coordinator of the Arizona Cardinals. “I look at wide receivers as more than just pass catchers. They must be football players, first and foremost.” Haley was asked about receiver Dwayne Bowe’s spot on the third-team. “I don’t think there is anything set in stone. Some positions are more obvious than others, but I don’t think wide receiver is one of those," Haley said.

Haley then went on to talk about drops at the receiver position. “It's OK to drop a ball; drops are going to happen. But what I want them doing is priding themselves on the tough catch, the ones where the linebacker is hitting them in the mouth,” Haley said.

Haley commented on two wide receivers that he thinks are doing a good job, Terrence Copper and Rodney Wright.“I think Terrence Copper is a guy that you know that you are going to get a good day's work from him everyday. Copper impresses me,” Haley said of the six-year veteran from East Carolina. Haley had a few comments about Wright as well, saying, “He works hard. Everyday hasn’t been perfect, but he is making strides.”

Titty Meat · 08-11-2009, 05:45 PM

So if Haley likes Copper who is out at WR?

Coogs · 08-11-2009, 05:48 PM

The full haley Q&A from kcchiefs.com...

Q&A with TODD HALEY - 8/11
Aug 11, 2009, 6:14:29 PM

Q: Opening Statement

TODD HALEY: “Today was probably our warmest one-a-day, the warmest long practice out there. I thought it was an excellent day of work for us. We hadn’t had any really hot days since we started and as I said to the players, I think this felt like training camp. The guys pushed through well. Even after practice you saw the group of offensive linemen push with Brian Waters running extra gassers on their own even after we conditioned. Guys have continued to work and those are all things you like to see.”

Q: What are you looking for from the wide receivers at this stage of camp?

HALEY: “I look at wide receivers as more than just pass catchers. As football players they have to block, they have to catch the ball in traffic, make contested catches and make big plays in big situations. Be football players first would be the way I would describe a group that I would like to be a part of.”

Q: With that emphasis, what ways have you tried to shake up guys and get their attention?

HALEY: “I am always pushing and prying, trying to instigate a little bit and get some emotion out of guys and get some passion out of guys. That is the way I have done it. There are a lot of different ways but that is what I have done more than anything, just try and press them every day and not give them a whole lot of time to breath. Usually in the end you have a decent group that plays, works hard and is mentally tough.”

Q: Do you use depth chart placement as a tool to get players fired up?

HALEY: “I am in a different position now. When I was a position coach I used to tell guys that I would do everything I can to get them out of here if you are not doing it this way. Obviously as a position coach I wasn’t making the final decision, but occasionally I’d be able to get done what I wanted done and the rest of the group would take notice. Now that I am the head coach, obviously I have a little more say in these things. It’s not a threat, it’s more that we are going to do it with the guys that do it our way and that is what we are looking for.”

Q: Do you see WR Dwayne Bowe being third on the depth chart come Saturday?

HALEY: “I don’t think there is anything set in stone. I have been pretty clear about that and some positions are probably a little more obvious than others, but I wouldn’t say that wide receiver is one of those.”

Q: Do you see Bowe as a guy that is mentally tough enough right now?

HALEY: “I think this group (wide receivers) as a whole needs work in that area. It is ok to drop a ball, it is going to happen and I understand it. What I want them to do is pride themselves on the tough catch where the linebacker is hitting them in the mouth or the safety is lining them up. Those are the catches that you want to pride yourself for as a receiver in the NFL. The blocking part is a big thing. Our receiving group is big as a group and they should be a physical group that comes in and takes on safeties and fights corners to the whistle every down when they are running the ball or when someone else is running it. I’d say as a group they have a ways to go, but a day like this helps.”

Q: Who is impressing you from the WR group?

HALEY: “Terrance Copper is a guy that you know you are going to get a good days work from everyday. Terrance Copper impresses me. Rodney Wright is coming from a long way off and it has been a little while, but he has worked hard every day. Has he been perfect? No, but I think he has made strides. I think you can clearly see a guy like Amani Toomer come in and he understands what it takes to play in the league. Same with Bobby Engram. I would say in talking about the group, those particular guys have stood out to me as guys who are trying to do it the way we want it done every day.”

Q: Is it significant to only have five guys working out of pads?

HALEY: “Yeah. To make this team you have to be on the field in general and that is a good sign when that group is getting smaller and smaller. Throughout the season it will be the same memo from us, to play you have to practice and that is the way we are going to handle our business and that is the way I have had success doing it. I like that the group is getting smaller and we have LB Demorrio Williams fighting back to get on the field and he was out there today. From what I could tell it looked like he showed up a handful of times so I thought that was good.”

Q: Have you been impressed with what you have seen from the defense?

HALEY: “I think that they have made progress and it is evident to everybody who has been out here. You saw the D-line working as a group yesterday and they have been putting a lot of work in on technique specifically. I think now you are starting to see some of that translate in the practice which is critical. I think that they are gaining confidence, they understand a little more what is going on as a group. As you know, it takes all 11 to play good defense and I think we have been getting close to that the last couple days.”

Q: Can you talk about the tight end position?

HALEY: “That has been a group that has been kind of decimated. They have been walking wounded throughout the camp so just getting them all back at once would be a plus for us. We have a couple that are practicing which is good. (TE) Jake O’Connell is beat up significantly and he has fought through. You saw him make a couple big-time catches yesterday. Those are the types of guys we are looking for. I would like to see that group get healthier but they are fighting through.”

Q: What is your philosophy for the preseason?

HALEY: “I think winning has got to be important around here all the time because we need to learn how to win again. That will be something an emphasis will be put on but at the same time, the most important thing that has to get done is evaluation. While we want to win, we have to do it with whatever group we need in there to get a full evaluation of the team.”

Q: With that being said, how do you as a coach get that done?

HALEY: “I think I have to coach the game to win. You’re not going to bring certain guys back that have been out to do that but you have to have the entire group ready to go with the mindset that we are going to find a way to win this game.”

Q: In terms of veteran leadership, why was it important to bring in guys like LBs Mike Vrabel and Zach Thomas?

HALEY: “It is such a young group and we just really felt that if you get a handful of those guys that have been around winning, like a Zach Thomas who has played in the league far longer than anyone thought that he could because he knows how to prepare to play every week. As young as our group was, we felt that it was really important to get guys in here to help guide this young group. We can only do so much as a coaching staff. A picture is worth a thousand words so put a picture of Mike Vrabel doing it the way it needs to be done, it is going to accelerate the learning curve for everyone. When you have a (S) Mike Brown and a (LB) Zach Thomas communicating on a third and five before the snap that helps you get a stop, that does wonders for guys like LB Derrick Johnson who is standing there paying attention. I think that was really what we wanted to get done, to help try and accelerate this younger groups learning.”

Q: Are you pleased with what the veterans have brought to this team?

HALEY: “Yeah. I think it has been a great impact.”

Q: How does this year’s camp differ from where you have been?

HALEY: “This is my first time ever making all the decisions but every camp is not the same because I have worked for a bunch of different head coaches. What I tried to do as an assistant coach is just pay attention and keep my notebooks for the ways that I thought were the best ways and what gave you the best chance for success so if I ever did get the opportunity, I would have some direction that I would want to go. At the same time, I have an experienced staff including some head coaches in that group. Every staff meeting we meet two times a day sometimes into the wee hours. They are mad at me for that but there is a lot of give and take going on in those meetings also.”

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-11-2009, 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coogs

The full haley Q&A from kcchiefs.com...

Q&A with TODD HALEY - 8/11
Aug 11, 2009, 6:14:29 PM

Q: Opening Statement

TODD HALEY: “Today was probably our warmest one-a-day, the warmest long practice out there. I thought it was an excellent day of work for us. We hadn’t had any really hot days since we started and as I said to the players, I think this felt like training camp. The guys pushed through well. Even after practice you saw the group of offensive linemen push with Brian Waters running extra gassers on their own even after we conditioned. Guys have continued to work and those are all things you like to see.”

Q: What are you looking for from the wide receivers at this stage of camp?

HALEY: “I look at wide receivers as more than just pass catchers. As football players they have to block, they have to catch the ball in traffic, make contested catches and make big plays in big situations. Be football players first would be the way I would describe a group that I would like to be a part of.”

Q: With that emphasis, what ways have you tried to shake up guys and get their attention?

HALEY: “I am always pushing and prying, trying to instigate a little bit and get some emotion out of guys and get some passion out of guys. That is the way I have done it. There are a lot of different ways but that is what I have done more than anything, just try and press them every day and not give them a whole lot of time to breath. Usually in the end you have a decent group that plays, works hard and is mentally tough.”

Q: Do you use depth chart placement as a tool to get players fired up?

HALEY: “I am in a different position now. When I was a position coach I used to tell guys that I would do everything I can to get them out of here if you are not doing it this way. Obviously as a position coach I wasn’t making the final decision, but occasionally I’d be able to get done what I wanted done and the rest of the group would take notice. Now that I am the head coach, obviously I have a little more say in these things. It’s not a threat, it’s more that we are going to do it with the guys that do it our way and that is what we are looking for.”

Q: Do you see WR Dwayne Bowe being third on the depth chart come Saturday?

HALEY: “I don’t think there is anything set in stone. I have been pretty clear about that and some positions are probably a little more obvious than others, but I wouldn’t say that wide receiver is one of those.”

Q: Do you see Bowe as a guy that is mentally tough enough right now?

HALEY: “I think this group (wide receivers) as a whole needs work in that area. It is ok to drop a ball, it is going to happen and I understand it. What I want them to do is pride themselves on the tough catch where the linebacker is hitting them in the mouth or the safety is lining them up. Those are the catches that you want to pride yourself for as a receiver in the NFL. The blocking part is a big thing. Our receiving group is big as a group and they should be a physical group that comes in and takes on safeties and fights corners to the whistle every down when they are running the ball or when someone else is running it. I’d say as a group they have a ways to go, but a day like this helps.”

Q: Who is impressing you from the WR group?

HALEY: “Terrance Copper is a guy that you know you are going to get a good days work from everyday. Terrance Copper impresses me. Rodney Wright is coming from a long way off and it has been a little while, but he has worked hard every day. Has he been perfect? No, but I think he has made strides. I think you can clearly see a guy like Amani Toomer come in and he understands what it takes to play in the league. Same with Bobby Engram. I would say in talking about the group, those particular guys have stood out to me as guys who are trying to do it the way we want it done every day.”

Q: Is it significant to only have five guys working out of pads?

HALEY: “Yeah. To make this team you have to be on the field in general and that is a good sign when that group is getting smaller and smaller. Throughout the season it will be the same memo from us, to play you have to practice and that is the way we are going to handle our business and that is the way I have had success doing it. I like that the group is getting smaller and we have LB Demorrio Williams fighting back to get on the field and he was out there today. From what I could tell it looked like he showed up a handful of times so I thought that was good.”

Q: Have you been impressed with what you have seen from the defense?

HALEY: “I think that they have made progress and it is evident to everybody who has been out here. You saw the D-line working as a group yesterday and they have been putting a lot of work in on technique specifically. I think now you are starting to see some of that translate in the practice which is critical. I think that they are gaining confidence, they understand a little more what is going on as a group. As you know, it takes all 11 to play good defense and I think we have been getting close to that the last couple days.”

Q: Can you talk about the tight end position?

HALEY: “That has been a group that has been kind of decimated. They have been walking wounded throughout the camp so just getting them all back at once would be a plus for us. We have a couple that are practicing which is good. (TE) Jake O’Connell is beat up significantly and he has fought through. You saw him make a couple big-time catches yesterday. Those are the types of guys we are looking for. I would like to see that group get healthier but they are fighting through.”

Q: What is your philosophy for the preseason?

HALEY: “I think winning has got to be important around here all the time because we need to learn how to win again. That will be something an emphasis will be put on but at the same time, the most important thing that has to get done is evaluation. While we want to win, we have to do it with whatever group we need in there to get a full evaluation of the team.”

Q: With that being said, how do you as a coach get that done?

HALEY: “I think I have to coach the game to win. You’re not going to bring certain guys back that have been out to do that but you have to have the entire group ready to go with the mindset that we are going to find a way to win this game.”

Q: In terms of veteran leadership, why was it important to bring in guys like LBs Mike Vrabel and Zach Thomas?

HALEY: “It is such a young group and we just really felt that if you get a handful of those guys that have been around winning, like a Zach Thomas who has played in the league far longer than anyone thought that he could because he knows how to prepare to play every week. As young as our group was, we felt that it was really important to get guys in here to help guide this young group. We can only do so much as a coaching staff. A picture is worth a thousand words so put a picture of Mike Vrabel doing it the way it needs to be done, it is going to accelerate the learning curve for everyone. When you have a (S) Mike Brown and a (LB) Zach Thomas communicating on a third and five before the snap that helps you get a stop, that does wonders for guys like LB Derrick Johnson who is standing there paying attention. I think that was really what we wanted to get done, to help try and accelerate this younger groups learning.”

Q: Are you pleased with what the veterans have brought to this team?

HALEY: “Yeah. I think it has been a great impact.”

Q: How does this year’s camp differ from where you have been?

HALEY: “This is my first time ever making all the decisions but every camp is not the same because I have worked for a bunch of different head coaches. What I tried to do as an assistant coach is just pay attention and keep my notebooks for the ways that I thought were the best ways and what gave you the best chance for success so if I ever did get the opportunity, I would have some direction that I would want to go. At the same time, I have an experienced staff including some head coaches in that group. Every staff meeting we meet two times a day sometimes into the wee hours. They are mad at me for that but there is a lot of give and take going on in those meetings also.”

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/08...dd_haley__811/

**Tribal Warfare** · 08-11-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

And the river falls update...

Tuesday, August 11: Afternoon Practice

It was a very hot and sunny afternoon practice, and there were only a few clouds in the distance. It was 81 degrees with the a little breeze every once in awhile at two miles-per-hour towards the south-southwest. The humidity was 40 percent with the dew point at 55.

It was another steamy day at out on the Chiefs practice field. The 15th practice was attended by nearly 100 dedicated fans who, with the help of water and umbrellas, endured through the hot summer sun.

Offense

Running back Jamaal Charles was back to practice today after sitting out the last two days. Inactive for the offense were running back Kolby Smith and offensive linemen Wade Smith and Tavares Washington.

Tackle Branden Albert left practice with a trainer about 20 minutes into the session. Albert would return seven minutes later. During one-on-one blocking drills, Albert was off to the side on a knee.
During the team’s 7-on-7 drill on field 1, quarterback Matt Cassel overthrew wide receiver Mark Bradley in the end zone. Later, in a second-and-six situation, cornerback Ricky Price showed leadership skills when he hollered the situation to his teammates. Quarterback Tyler Thigpen threw a pass to wide receiver Jeff Webb. Price was on the cover, and when he tackled Webb, the ball popped loose. There was speculation about the play being a fumble, but Head Coach Todd Haley didn’t dwell on the play, and the team moved on to the next situation.

The team then moved 7-on-7 to field 2. Quarterback Tyler Thigpen had a good throw to wide receiver Dwayne Bowe. Bowe was able to make the catch between two defensive backs and a linebacker. Later, quarterback Matt Cassel had a completion to wide receiver Terrance Copper. Cornerback Brandon Carr was there to make the quick stop. Carr drove Copper back several yards before the play was whistled dead.

At the sound of the horn, the offense and defense split up between fields 1 and 2. The defense worked on getting off the line of scrimmage, which was represented by a yellow band on the field. The offense worked on a similar drill. During the drill, Head Coach Todd Haley was frustrated with the lack of effort put in by running back Dantrell Savage. “You’re not running, Savage,” Haley yelled multiple times.

When the team was running a drill on the south end of field 1, running back Javarris Williams lost his shoe. He completed the play to the end zone before returning back about 15 yards to pick up his shoe.

Receiver Dwayne Bowe had a rough time catching the ball in traffic today. Once again, the team ran the drill where the coaches were hitting the receivers with hand shields the moment they caught the ball. Bowe was forced to repeat the drill multiple times but was unable to come up with a catch. Wide Receivers Coach Dedric Ward finally had enough and moved on.

Offensive Line Coach Bill Muir was getting frustrated with a group of offensive linemen when they were working on pass blocking against the defensive line. “I am (freaking) tired of you peoples’ (crap)!” Muir said.

While the rest of the offensive and defensive lines were doing one-on-one drills, tackles Cameron Goldberg and Herb Taylor were off doing separate drills matched up against linebackers Vince Redd and Pierre Walters.

Special Teams

Kicker Ryan Succop was perfect during the kicking portion of today’s practice. Succop hit from 36, 37, 40 and 44 yards. The kick from 44 yards was from the left hash; all others were straight on.

Wide receivers Quinten Lawrence and Rodney Wright were responsible for all of the punt returns in today’s practice.

Kicker Ryan Succop worked on his on-side kicks this afternoon. He was struggling getting the ball to carry at least 10 yards early in the drills, but after about 10 minutes he started to get the hang of it and made some very decent kicks.

Defense

Linebacker Zach Thomas and cornerback DaJuan Morgan were the only inactive defensive players during this afternoon’s practice.

Linebacker Demorrio Williams saw his first action this afternoon. Williams had been inactive during training camp thus far after failing Head Coach Todd Haley’s physical and conditioning test. Williams has been working out on different equipment with Chiefs Strength and Conditioning Coach Cedric Smith.

While the rest of the team was running 7-on-7 situations, the defensive and offensive linemen worked one-on-one on blocking. Defensive end Dion Gales and defensive tackle Derek Lokey jumped offsides during the drill and had to run the length of field 1.

During the team’s 11-on-11 drill, Head Coach Todd Haley complimented the defense on their quarterback pressures and would-be sacks. “Good job, D,” he said. “Get rid of the ball, quarterbacks.” Later, quarterback Tyler Thigpen fumbled the snap. Defensive tackle Tank Tyler and running back Jackie Battle wrestled around on the ground for the football. Tyler eventually pried it away from Battle. As Tyler lay on the ground, nodding his head, defensive end Tyson Jackson hollered from the sidelines, “I see you, Tank. I see you, 9-3.”

Defensive end Alfonso Boone knocked down two passes in a row during the team’s 11-on-11 work today. Both passes were attempted by quarterback Matt Cassel. When the second-team offense took the field, defensive end Tyson Jackson was able to get his hand on a Tyler Thigpen pass.

While the team was working on late game defensive situations, Head Coach Todd Haley tricked the defense. After an incomplete pass, Haley turned to the defense with his hands in the form of a “T,” signaling for them to call a timeout. The entire defense immediately erupted in calls for a timeout. Haley then yelled at them for trying to call a timeout after an incompletion.

Defensive ends Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee had a short workout after practice with Defensive Line Coach Tim Krumrie. The defenders worked on their one-on-one blocking skills while getting off of the blocker. It was apparent that the heat was taking its toll on some of the big men today, and both players looked very tired when the workout was completed. After finishing both men walked to the fan section to sign autographs for adoring onlookers.

Todd Haley Press Conference

Head Coach Todd Haley called today “the warmest one-a-day.” Haley mentioned that this finally felt like training camp weather.

A lot of the conference focused around the wide receivers. Haley was a wide receivers coach before he became the offensive coordinator of the Arizona Cardinals. “I look at wide receivers as more than just pass catchers. They must be football players, first and foremost.” Haley was asked about receiver Dwayne Bowe’s spot on the third-team. “I don’t think there is anything set in stone. Some positions are more obvious than others, but I don’t think wide receiver is one of those," Haley said.

Haley then went on to talk about drops at the receiver position. “It's OK to drop a ball; drops are going to happen. But what I want them doing is priding themselves on the tough catch, the ones where the linebacker is hitting them in the mouth,” Haley said.

Haley commented on two wide receivers that he thinks are doing a good job, Terrence Copper and Rodney Wright.“I think Terrence Copper is a guy that you know that you are going to get a good day's work from him everyday. Copper impresses me,” Haley said of the six-year veteran from East Carolina. Haley had a few comments about Wright as well, saying, “He works hard. Everyday hasn’t been perfect, but he is making strides.”

http://www.uwrf.edu/chiefs/prev_upda...s=090811pm.htm

RustShack · 08-11-2009, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

Whos Pat Perles? I thought Gary Gibbs was the Linebacker coach?

Defensive Quality Control

Coogs · 08-11-2009, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/08...dd_haley__811/

Whoops! Sorry. Thanks TW!

Coogs · 08-11-2009, 06:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

http://www.uwrf.edu/chiefs/prev_upda...s=090811pm.htm

This one too!

milkman · 08-11-2009, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

Camp Practice Update 8/11 P.M.
August 11, 2009 - Bob Gretz |

From River Falls, Wisconsin

It was a hot one Tuesday afternoon here in the northwoods, and it had nothing to do with the head coach’s demeanor or the hard hitting that’s been part of practice all through camp.

It was just hot outside, stinkin’ hot, the hottest practice day of this year’s camp, and maybe the last three or four years. Temperatures pushed into the high 80s and there was little or no breeze blowing through the UW-River Falls practice fields.

“This felt like training camp,” said head coach Todd Haley. “I thought this was an excellent day of work for us. I thought the guys pushed through well. Even after practice.”

LG Brian Waters had the offensive line as a group run extra gassers after practice as other players scattered over the three fields and worked on individual moves and the like. At one point, 10 minutes after the post-practice team huddle had broken up, there were still 29 players on the field doing something.

“Those are all things you like to see,” said Haley.

Here’s what else he saw and had to say about the 15th practice of the pre-season:

- Asked what he’s looking for from his group of wide receivers, Haley said: “I look at wide receivers as more than just pass catchers; they have to be football players. They have to block, they have to catch the ball in traffic, make contested catches, make big plays in big situation. But they have to be football players first.” When pressed on who among his current group had qualified under that standard, he mentioned Terrance Copper, Rodney Wright, Amani Toomer and Bobby Engram.

- It was another tough day for WR Dwayne Bowe. In the individual position segment, the receivers run a four-cone drill. The cones are set up in a box pattern, about five yards apart. The receiver runs around those cones and has to catch a pass on each side, and the throws are coming in hot. When Bowe succeeded in catching all four of his passes, he slammed the ball down, flung off his helmet and posed as if he’d just scored the winning TD pass. On the next drill, two coaches were welding bags and hitting receivers as they tried to catch the ball. In six chances, Bowe did not have a successful catch. He was the only receiver who didn’t catch at least one pass.

– The rehab team was down to five players for this practice, as LBs Monty Beisel and Demorrio Williams, along with RB Jamaal Charles returned to practice. It was the first time Williams has been on the practice field in uniform this camp. The only five players not working were LB Zach Thomas, Gs Wade Smith and Tavares Washington, S DaJuan Morgan and RB Kolby Smith. Haley was pleased with the decrease in players working in what he’s called “No Man’s Land”: “To make this team you need to be on the field and that’s a good sign when that group is getting smaller and smaller. Throughout the season it will be the same m.o. for us; if you want to play you’ve got to practice.”

– The Chiefs practiced a no huddle offense for one segment of practice to mixed results. QBs Matt Cassel and Tyler Thigpen were a combined nine of 16 throwing the ball, with each one having a pass deflected by the defense. It was not a precision performance.

– They ran 20 plays in the teamwork portion of practice and the defense won, but was not as dominant as it was on Monday. It was a 60-40 breakdown for the defense. Cassel was just two of six throwing the ball.

– OLB Andy Studebaker continues to get some opportunities to long snap. He was sent in during a punt drill and promptly threw one back that almost went over P Dustin Colquitt’s head. Colquitt was able to get the punt off, but only after leaping to catch the snap. On another snap, Colquitt held onto the ball and did not kick because SS Bernard Pollard was screaming in from the right side, blowing through a block attempt by Charles and he would have easily blocked the punt.

– Rookie DL Dion Gales had to take a punishment run for jumping offsides during the pass rush-protection drill. He ran that 200 yards like he was on his last legs.

– OLB Vince Redd started showing up in this practice, as he displayed a very quick and powerful pass rush from the outside. Haley made it clear to the young man claimed off waivers from New England, that he needed to show that kind of play in every practice.

– Beisel got a sack in a team period and Haley was not happy that rookie WR Quinten Lawrence had decided not to block anybody on the play. Lawrence was in a type of H-back role, having gone in motion and not in a pass route. He heard it good from the head coach.

– After practice, DT Derek Lokey was working on long snapping … TEs Brad Cottam and Sean Ryan caught passes off the ball machine with TE coach Bob Bicknell watching … DEs Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee worked on hitting a sled with D-Line coach Tim Krumrie instructing … OLB Tamba Hali and NT Tank Tyler were working on hand fighting moves, and important element for any pass rusher … the usual cast of about six to 10 players was catching kicks off the ball machine … four young LBs worked with coach Pat Perles on taking and shedding blockers … OT Herb Taylor was working by himself on pass blocking sets … rookie CB Jackie Bates was running extra sprints, not 10 or 20 yards, but 100 yards and back.

You're like the repost King!

Good job!

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-11-2009, 09:05 PM

This is one underwhelming camp offensively. I am genuinely concerned.

RustShack · 08-11-2009, 09:16 PM

Maybe our defense is THAT good now

Our defense seemed to be our strength last year too and it sucked balls.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-11-2009, 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RustShack

Maybe our defense is THAT good now

Our defense seemed to be our strength last year too and it sucked balls.

"Clancy Pendergast: Enabling God-Mode since 2009"?

I had fully expected to be eating some Cassel/Bowe humble pie by now, but...

**Dylan** · 08-11-2009, 11:41 PM

Check out your new Wide Reciever -- Amani Toomer is a big time clutch player everytime he steps on the field.

Watch Tooms pull the ball in down the sidelines. I believe it is Toomer's 2nd or 3rd catch -- It is the play right after Plax catches the ball.

Toomer caught every ball thrown his way. He's got unbelievable field awareness and is very smart moving through defenses. He's very exciting to watch

Video 1 -- 2008 Amani Toomer - Mr Clutch

http://www.giants.com/player/ivideo-...Fbengals%2Eflv

oh yeah, the non-believers will have to watch my boy in action...

Sweet Daddy Hate · 08-11-2009, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dylan

Check out your new Wide Reciever -- Amani Toomer is a big time clutch player everytime he steps on the field.

Watch Tooms pull the ball in down the sidelines. I believe it is Toomer's 2nd or 3rd catch -- It is the play right after Plax catches the ball.

Toomer caught every ball thrown his way. He's got unbelievable field awareness and is very smart moving through defenses. He's very exciting to watch

Video 1 -- 2008 Amani Toomer - Mr Clutch

http://www.giants.com/player/ivideo-...Fbengals%2Eflv

oh yeah, the non-believers will have to watch my boy in action...

Hey Dylan. I feel good about having Toom in the house. Sure hands, excellent foot control, and nice, crisp routes.

I know Pioli will eventually shift the paradigm, but it's camps like this( offensively )that make me feel like I'm part of Huckleberry Hound, Hickity-Haw franchise in terms of having the ability to acquire and maintain top-notch, no kool-aid required talent.

It'll come I know, but right now it kind'a sucks.

Mecca · 08-11-2009, 11:56 PM

I had 810 on and basically all they talked about during the Chiefs time was how horrible the passing game looks.

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08-11-2009, 05:44 PM	#541
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2345651	And the river falls update... Tuesday, August 11: Afternoon Practice It was a very hot and sunny afternoon practice, and there were only a few clouds in the distance. It was 81 degrees with the a little breeze every once in awhile at two miles-per-hour towards the south-southwest. The humidity was 40 percent with the dew point at 55. It was another steamy day at out on the Chiefs practice field. The 15th practice was attended by nearly 100 dedicated fans who, with the help of water and umbrellas, endured through the hot summer sun. Offense Running back Jamaal Charles was back to practice today after sitting out the last two days. Inactive for the offense were running back Kolby Smith and offensive linemen Wade Smith and Tavares Washington. Tackle Branden Albert left practice with a trainer about 20 minutes into the session. Albert would return seven minutes later. During one-on-one blocking drills, Albert was off to the side on a knee. During the team’s 7-on-7 drill on field 1, quarterback Matt Cassel overthrew wide receiver Mark Bradley in the end zone. Later, in a second-and-six situation, cornerback Ricky Price showed leadership skills when he hollered the situation to his teammates. Quarterback Tyler Thigpen threw a pass to wide receiver Jeff Webb. Price was on the cover, and when he tackled Webb, the ball popped loose. There was speculation about the play being a fumble, but Head Coach Todd Haley didn’t dwell on the play, and the team moved on to the next situation. The team then moved 7-on-7 to field 2. Quarterback Tyler Thigpen had a good throw to wide receiver Dwayne Bowe. Bowe was able to make the catch between two defensive backs and a linebacker. Later, quarterback Matt Cassel had a completion to wide receiver Terrance Copper. Cornerback Brandon Carr was there to make the quick stop. Carr drove Copper back several yards before the play was whistled dead. At the sound of the horn, the offense and defense split up between fields 1 and 2. The defense worked on getting off the line of scrimmage, which was represented by a yellow band on the field. The offense worked on a similar drill. During the drill, Head Coach Todd Haley was frustrated with the lack of effort put in by running back Dantrell Savage. “You’re not running, Savage,” Haley yelled multiple times. When the team was running a drill on the south end of field 1, running back Javarris Williams lost his shoe. He completed the play to the end zone before returning back about 15 yards to pick up his shoe. Receiver Dwayne Bowe had a rough time catching the ball in traffic today. Once again, the team ran the drill where the coaches were hitting the receivers with hand shields the moment they caught the ball. Bowe was forced to repeat the drill multiple times but was unable to come up with a catch. Wide Receivers Coach Dedric Ward finally had enough and moved on. Offensive Line Coach Bill Muir was getting frustrated with a group of offensive linemen when they were working on pass blocking against the defensive line. “I am (freaking) tired of you peoples’ (crap)!” Muir said. While the rest of the offensive and defensive lines were doing one-on-one drills, tackles Cameron Goldberg and Herb Taylor were off doing separate drills matched up against linebackers Vince Redd and Pierre Walters. Special Teams Kicker Ryan Succop was perfect during the kicking portion of today’s practice. Succop hit from 36, 37, 40 and 44 yards. The kick from 44 yards was from the left hash; all others were straight on. Wide receivers Quinten Lawrence and Rodney Wright were responsible for all of the punt returns in today’s practice. Kicker Ryan Succop worked on his on-side kicks this afternoon. He was struggling getting the ball to carry at least 10 yards early in the drills, but after about 10 minutes he started to get the hang of it and made some very decent kicks. Defense Linebacker Zach Thomas and cornerback DaJuan Morgan were the only inactive defensive players during this afternoon’s practice. Linebacker Demorrio Williams saw his first action this afternoon. Williams had been inactive during training camp thus far after failing Head Coach Todd Haley’s physical and conditioning test. Williams has been working out on different equipment with Chiefs Strength and Conditioning Coach Cedric Smith. While the rest of the team was running 7-on-7 situations, the defensive and offensive linemen worked one-on-one on blocking. Defensive end Dion Gales and defensive tackle Derek Lokey jumped offsides during the drill and had to run the length of field 1. During the team’s 11-on-11 drill, Head Coach Todd Haley complimented the defense on their quarterback pressures and would-be sacks. “Good job, D,” he said. “Get rid of the ball, quarterbacks.” Later, quarterback Tyler Thigpen fumbled the snap. Defensive tackle Tank Tyler and running back Jackie Battle wrestled around on the ground for the football. Tyler eventually pried it away from Battle. As Tyler lay on the ground, nodding his head, defensive end Tyson Jackson hollered from the sidelines, “I see you, Tank. I see you, 9-3.” Defensive end Alfonso Boone knocked down two passes in a row during the team’s 11-on-11 work today. Both passes were attempted by quarterback Matt Cassel. When the second-team offense took the field, defensive end Tyson Jackson was able to get his hand on a Tyler Thigpen pass. While the team was working on late game defensive situations, Head Coach Todd Haley tricked the defense. After an incomplete pass, Haley turned to the defense with his hands in the form of a “T,” signaling for them to call a timeout. The entire defense immediately erupted in calls for a timeout. Haley then yelled at them for trying to call a timeout after an incompletion. Defensive ends Tyson Jackson and Alex Magee had a short workout after practice with Defensive Line Coach Tim Krumrie. The defenders worked on their one-on-one blocking skills while getting off of the blocker. It was apparent that the heat was taking its toll on some of the big men today, and both players looked very tired when the workout was completed. After finishing both men walked to the fan section to sign autographs for adoring onlookers. Todd Haley Press Conference Head Coach Todd Haley called today “the warmest one-a-day.” Haley mentioned that this finally felt like training camp weather. A lot of the conference focused around the wide receivers. Haley was a wide receivers coach before he became the offensive coordinator of the Arizona Cardinals. “I look at wide receivers as more than just pass catchers. They must be football players, first and foremost.” Haley was asked about receiver Dwayne Bowe’s spot on the third-team. “I don’t think there is anything set in stone. Some positions are more obvious than others, but I don’t think wide receiver is one of those," Haley said. Haley then went on to talk about drops at the receiver position. “It's OK to drop a ball; drops are going to happen. But what I want them doing is priding themselves on the tough catch, the ones where the linebacker is hitting them in the mouth,” Haley said. Haley commented on two wide receivers that he thinks are doing a good job, Terrence Copper and Rodney Wright.“I think Terrence Copper is a guy that you know that you are going to get a good day's work from him everyday. Copper impresses me,” Haley said of the six-year veteran from East Carolina. Haley had a few comments about Wright as well, saying, “He works hard. Everyday hasn’t been perfect, but he is making strides.”
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08-11-2009, 05:45 PM	#542
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08-11-2009, 05:48 PM	#543
Coogs In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Northern Kansas Casino cash: $-2345651	The full haley Q&A from kcchiefs.com... Q&A with TODD HALEY - 8/11 Aug 11, 2009, 6:14:29 PM Q: Opening Statement TODD HALEY: “Today was probably our warmest one-a-day, the warmest long practice out there. I thought it was an excellent day of work for us. We hadn’t had any really hot days since we started and as I said to the players, I think this felt like training camp. The guys pushed through well. Even after practice you saw the group of offensive linemen push with Brian Waters running extra gassers on their own even after we conditioned. Guys have continued to work and those are all things you like to see.” Q: What are you looking for from the wide receivers at this stage of camp? HALEY: “I look at wide receivers as more than just pass catchers. As football players they have to block, they have to catch the ball in traffic, make contested catches and make big plays in big situations. Be football players first would be the way I would describe a group that I would like to be a part of.” Q: With that emphasis, what ways have you tried to shake up guys and get their attention? HALEY: “I am always pushing and prying, trying to instigate a little bit and get some emotion out of guys and get some passion out of guys. That is the way I have done it. There are a lot of different ways but that is what I have done more than anything, just try and press them every day and not give them a whole lot of time to breath. Usually in the end you have a decent group that plays, works hard and is mentally tough.” Q: Do you use depth chart placement as a tool to get players fired up? HALEY: “I am in a different position now. When I was a position coach I used to tell guys that I would do everything I can to get them out of here if you are not doing it this way. Obviously as a position coach I wasn’t making the final decision, but occasionally I’d be able to get done what I wanted done and the rest of the group would take notice. Now that I am the head coach, obviously I have a little more say in these things. It’s not a threat, it’s more that we are going to do it with the guys that do it our way and that is what we are looking for.” Q: Do you see WR Dwayne Bowe being third on the depth chart come Saturday? HALEY: “I don’t think there is anything set in stone. I have been pretty clear about that and some positions are probably a little more obvious than others, but I wouldn’t say that wide receiver is one of those.” Q: Do you see Bowe as a guy that is mentally tough enough right now? HALEY: “I think this group (wide receivers) as a whole needs work in that area. It is ok to drop a ball, it is going to happen and I understand it. What I want them to do is pride themselves on the tough catch where the linebacker is hitting them in the mouth or the safety is lining them up. Those are the catches that you want to pride yourself for as a receiver in the NFL. The blocking part is a big thing. Our receiving group is big as a group and they should be a physical group that comes in and takes on safeties and fights corners to the whistle every down when they are running the ball or when someone else is running it. I’d say as a group they have a ways to go, but a day like this helps.” Q: Who is impressing you from the WR group? HALEY: “Terrance Copper is a guy that you know you are going to get a good days work from everyday. Terrance Copper impresses me. Rodney Wright is coming from a long way off and it has been a little while, but he has worked hard every day. Has he been perfect? No, but I think he has made strides. I think you can clearly see a guy like Amani Toomer come in and he understands what it takes to play in the league. Same with Bobby Engram. I would say in talking about the group, those particular guys have stood out to me as guys who are trying to do it the way we want it done every day.” Q: Is it significant to only have five guys working out of pads? HALEY: “Yeah. To make this team you have to be on the field in general and that is a good sign when that group is getting smaller and smaller. Throughout the season it will be the same memo from us, to play you have to practice and that is the way we are going to handle our business and that is the way I have had success doing it. I like that the group is getting smaller and we have LB Demorrio Williams fighting back to get on the field and he was out there today. From what I could tell it looked like he showed up a handful of times so I thought that was good.” Q: Have you been impressed with what you have seen from the defense? HALEY: “I think that they have made progress and it is evident to everybody who has been out here. You saw the D-line working as a group yesterday and they have been putting a lot of work in on technique specifically. I think now you are starting to see some of that translate in the practice which is critical. I think that they are gaining confidence, they understand a little more what is going on as a group. As you know, it takes all 11 to play good defense and I think we have been getting close to that the last couple days.” Q: Can you talk about the tight end position? HALEY: “That has been a group that has been kind of decimated. They have been walking wounded throughout the camp so just getting them all back at once would be a plus for us. We have a couple that are practicing which is good. (TE) Jake O’Connell is beat up significantly and he has fought through. You saw him make a couple big-time catches yesterday. Those are the types of guys we are looking for. I would like to see that group get healthier but they are fighting through.” Q: What is your philosophy for the preseason? HALEY: “I think winning has got to be important around here all the time because we need to learn how to win again. That will be something an emphasis will be put on but at the same time, the most important thing that has to get done is evaluation. While we want to win, we have to do it with whatever group we need in there to get a full evaluation of the team.” Q: With that being said, how do you as a coach get that done? HALEY: “I think I have to coach the game to win. You’re not going to bring certain guys back that have been out to do that but you have to have the entire group ready to go with the mindset that we are going to find a way to win this game.” Q: In terms of veteran leadership, why was it important to bring in guys like LBs Mike Vrabel and Zach Thomas? HALEY: “It is such a young group and we just really felt that if you get a handful of those guys that have been around winning, like a Zach Thomas who has played in the league far longer than anyone thought that he could because he knows how to prepare to play every week. As young as our group was, we felt that it was really important to get guys in here to help guide this young group. We can only do so much as a coaching staff. A picture is worth a thousand words so put a picture of Mike Vrabel doing it the way it needs to be done, it is going to accelerate the learning curve for everyone. When you have a (S) Mike Brown and a (LB) Zach Thomas communicating on a third and five before the snap that helps you get a stop, that does wonders for guys like LB Derrick Johnson who is standing there paying attention. I think that was really what we wanted to get done, to help try and accelerate this younger groups learning.” Q: Are you pleased with what the veterans have brought to this team? HALEY: “Yeah. I think it has been a great impact.” Q: How does this year’s camp differ from where you have been? HALEY: “This is my first time ever making all the decisions but every camp is not the same because I have worked for a bunch of different head coaches. What I tried to do as an assistant coach is just pay attention and keep my notebooks for the ways that I thought were the best ways and what gave you the best chance for success so if I ever did get the opportunity, I would have some direction that I would want to go. At the same time, I have an experienced staff including some head coaches in that group. Every staff meeting we meet two times a day sometimes into the wee hours. They are mad at me for that but there is a lot of give and take going on in those meetings also.”
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08-11-2009, 09:05 PM	#550
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08-11-2009, 09:16 PM	#551
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08-11-2009, 11:41 PM	#553
Dylan The Lede Join Date: Aug 2007 Casino cash: $10016591	Check out your new Wide Reciever -- Amani Toomer is a big time clutch player everytime he steps on the field. Watch Tooms pull the ball in down the sidelines. I believe it is Toomer's 2nd or 3rd catch -- It is the play right after Plax catches the ball. Toomer caught every ball thrown his way. He's got unbelievable field awareness and is very smart moving through defenses. He's very exciting to watch Video 1 -- 2008 Amani Toomer - Mr Clutch http://www.giants.com/player/ivideo-...Fbengals%2Eflv oh yeah, the non-believers will have to watch my boy in action...
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08-11-2009, 11:56 PM	#555
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