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Old 06-13-2014, 01:01 PM  
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Chiefs released CB Brandon Flowers.
Flowers' performance and usefulness in Kansas City slipped dramatically under new DC Bob Sutton last season, as a press-man scheme was installed in the secondary and Flowers failed to find a fit. He wound up mostly at slot corner, and was beaten relentlessly. The Chiefs were trying to trade Flowers, but found no takers for his contract. Flowers had some of the best years of his career under now-Texans DC Romeo Crennel, and cornerback depth is needed in Houston. We wouldn't be surprised to see them reunite. Flowers turned 28 in February.
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Chargers agreed to terms with CB Brandon Flowers on a one-year contract.
The deal is worth "up to" $5 million and contains $3 million in total guarantees. Despite an anemic 2013 season as a misfit in Bob Sutton's press-man scheme, Flowers found a full bushel of suitors after the Chiefs released him 11 days ago. He lands in a spot where he can immediately rehab his value as a starting corner and then hit the open market again at age 29. Flowers put plenty of really good tape together from 2008-12, and will add borderline Pro Bowl shadow ability to a pass defense that ranked 29th in the league last year. With first-round corner Jason Verrett also added to incumbents Shareece Wright and Richard Marshall, this won't be quite the unit to pick on that it was last season.
He's a Charger now.
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Old 06-14-2014, 10:17 PM   #541
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Flowers was so good last year.

QB stats against Flowers in 2013:

64/96 66.7% comp against Flowers

846 yards allowed

4 TDs

103 passer rating

But by all means, hang on to the 5'9" CB who runs a 4.55 with a 30" vertical when he clearly demonstrated last season that he would be nothing more than an ineffective player in this scheme. Hell, he couldn't even manage the slot at a high level.

How many times do you plan to post the same thing?
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Old 06-14-2014, 10:18 PM   #542
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As many times as it takes for people to realize that he actually really sucked last year and was nowhere near worth the $10+ mil cap hit.
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Old 06-14-2014, 10:24 PM   #543
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As many times as it takes for people to realize that he actually really sucked last year and was nowhere near worth the $10+ mil cap hit.
That's subjective.
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That's subjective.
Would you agree he was our third best corner?
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Old 06-14-2014, 10:45 PM   #546
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Flowers was so good last year.

QB stats against Flowers in 2013:

64/96 66.7% comp against Flowers

846 yards allowed

4 TDs

103 passer rating

But by all means, hang on to the 5'9" CB who runs a 4.55 with a 30" vertical when he clearly demonstrated last season that he would be nothing more than an ineffective player in this scheme. Hell, he couldn't even manage the slot at a high level.
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Old 06-14-2014, 11:10 PM   #549
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Look at Seattles defense.. other than Earl Thomas they are all low drafted player. We need to get Berry to playing FS, thats more important.
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How many times do you plan to post the same thing?
Yea. People that aren't college educated and have never been through a proper stat's 300' class don't understand that it's all about using the average to gain a proper perspective. Flowers walking right now is a crime.
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It's obvious now that we should be copying Seattles defense.

But we started the trend toward taller CB's before Seattle won the SB shutting down one of the best offenses in history... And that isn't scheme/Sutton specific... he was supposed to be bringing in Ryans scheme (who employed shorter cb's).

so the foresight of the trend was good
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As many times as it takes for people to realize that he actually really sucked last year and was nowhere near worth the $10+ mil cap hit.

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It's obvious now that we should be copying Seattles defense.

But we started the trend toward taller CB's before Seattle won the SB shutting down one of the best offenses in history... And that isn't scheme/Sutton specific... he was supposed to be bringing in Ryans scheme (who employed shorter cb's).

so the foresight of the trend was good

Seattle didn't shut Denver down because they were tall. They shut Denver down because they tackled well and gave up few YAC.
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Seattle didn't shut Denver down because they were tall. They shut Denver down because they tackled well and gave up few YAC.
They won because of the scheme they played. They won all year with it. You could have a the best tacklers in the world but if you tried to play that Denver team with a cover 2 defense you're giving up 40 +
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because we cut him
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